hosted by liquidweb

Go Back   Web Hosting Talk : Web Hosting Main Forums : Hosting Security and Technology : Interesting Anti-DoS idea.

Forum Jump

Interesting Anti-DoS idea.

Reply Post New Thread In Hosting Security and Technology Subscription
Send news tip View All Posts Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Junior Guru Wannabe
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Kent, England
Posts: 72

Interesting Anti-DoS idea.

First of all, please apologize if im talking absolete rubbish, I'm currently learning the whole technical background of TCP/IP.

Anyway, dealing with clients who use servers for DoSing and the likes can be very expensive to deal with, and recieving DoS attacks obviously painful.

Now, this little random idea is probably been thought of and prehaps exists, but looking at ICMP Source Quench.

From what I can gather if a box is getting flooded by too much information it sends a Source Quench request to the server. Now blatently this isnt mantatory, since we have DoSing, but what about something which takes this and makes it mandatory, forcing the server to stop the DoS. Webhosts could write this in ToS that this measure is required on the server, and thus eliminating effective DoS attacks from the servers.

Feedback / Correcting me for such a stupid idea (if I'm making no sense) welcome .

Sponsored Links
Web Hosting Master
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 6,594
OK I'm a bit of newbie so guessing here but taking that the source IP is forged on most DDOS then sending an ICMP Source Quench would actually be directed at an innocent bystander so prehaps you would end up DOS'ing them as well


Rus Foster - Director of Cloud @ UK2 Group - True Cloud Hosting powered by OnApp and HP SANS
Tel: +447714137805 | Email:

Junior Guru Wannabe
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Kent, England
Posts: 72
Will still help in DDoS, as the slave computers that have been comprised will unable to send the data that the master is telling it to do.

Sponsored Links
Web Hosting Master
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 1,148
This would be a standard across the internet, as anyones server/home computer could become comprimised.

Datums Internet Solutions, LLC
Systems Engineering & Managed Hosting Services
Complex Hosting Consultants

Junior Guru
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Michigan, USA
Posts: 245
Most DDOS attacks are generated from spoofed ips so I dont think it would help that much. You would be better off implementing hardware filtering and a null routing policy

Junior Guru Wannabe
Join Date: May 2004
Location: India
Posts: 91
I agree with tekneeks . If someone flooding from 10,000 spoofed ip and 10 chillds per ip, what protection will do ? But it can bring down any server, if properly implemented. I think ipv6 have a solution for us. Waiting for that era to begin properly.

Helpdesk : Sir, you need to add 10GB space to your HD , Customer : Could you please tell where I can download that?


Related posts from
Title Type Date Posted
61 Percent of Americans Support the Right to Be Forgotten as California Enacts New Law Web Hosting News 2014-09-30 19:07:31
Chinese Anti-Trust Regulators Demand Explanation from Microsoft Web Hosting News 2014-09-02 12:20:07
China Continues Microsoft Anti-Trust Investigation with New Raids Web Hosting News 2014-08-06 12:44:16
Fireblade Brings Anti-DDoS Solution to Web Hosting Market at 2014 Web Hosting News 2014-05-01 08:33:45
The Pirate Bay Uploads Continue to Grow Despite Anti-Piracy Pressure Web Hosting News 2013-12-31 11:33:12

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Postbit Selector

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Log in with your username and password

Forgot Password?
WHT Host Brief Email:

We respect your privacy. We will never sell, rent, or give away your address to any outside party, ever.

Web Hosting News:
WHT Membership
WHT Membership



Welcome to

Create your username to jump into the discussion! is the largest, most influentual web hosting community on the Internet. Join us by filling in the form below.

(4 digit year)

Already a member?