Web Hosting Talk : Other Forums : Web Hosting Lounge : How to find out which Alabanza customer hosts the site?

[abcweb]

Hi,

I often find Alabanza resellers (like myself). I'd like to see from which Alabanza client they buy their services. As most here know, they all have their own virtual DNS. I do however remember I once found out where they buy there services, while doing a dig on the vDNS. The dig revealed the "real" DNS of the server of the Alabanza client.

Unfortunately it looks like this doesn't work anymore..

Does anybody have suggestions?

Regards,

Dreas van Donselaar

[etLux]

Just out of idle curiousity, why would one want to know that?

[abcweb]

Cause I sometimes see businesses providing their customers better pricing than me )
So I need to find out where they get everything!

[BC]

What you could do is do a WHOIS check on the customer's domain, then keep doing WHOIS/reverse DNS checks on the nameservers of the client until you reach a point where you can't go any further. That's usually the only way.

For example, if you see something like ns*.4ua.com, it signifies the client site is buying from AMHosting, who's also responsible for Below $10 Host, and a ring of other companies.

Keep in mind, however, that nameservers won't *necessarily* fully reveal who your Alabanza 'competitor' is.

[etLux]

Or maybe http://internic.net and look at the nameserver.

[abcweb]

But whois only resolves the virtual DNS. And most Alabanza resellers got their own ns names. Or am I misunderstanging you?

Regards,

Dreas van Donselaar

[abcweb]

Let's say I want to find out where XXLWebhosting.com gets it's accounts.

His nameservers are:

NS3.XXLWEBHOSTING.COM 216.147.102.165
NS4.XXLWEBHOSTING.COM 64.176.226.154

I know he resells Alabanza accounts (traceroute).

Regards,

Dreas van Donselaar

[BC]

Well, in this case, you can do a reverse DNS lookup on the nameservers to see if you get any more info. If you can't, that's it. You can't glean any more info.

[abcweb]

Nope. Reverse of DNS IP returns DNS hostname (the xxlwebhosting one). I used to be able to get the info using a dig. But it looks like Alabanza changed their system :o(

Anybody here that does know the solution?

Regards,

Dreas van Donselaar

[Brian Farkas]

You may be able to telnet to port 25, the SMTP port, which will tell you which host any alabanza reseller leases from.

[abcweb]

That's what I have been looking for :o)
Thanks a lot!

[brandonk]

I'VE GOT THE SOLUTION!

I do this occasionally to find out if someone is a reseller, etc...

It works very well. First you need to find out the IP address of one of their nameservers. It doesn't matter which one.

Go to http://www.arin.net/whois/ and run a search on that IP address. It will tell you what company owns that IP, and if it's albanza it will say.

Thanks,
Brandon

[Chicken]

Actually the question wasn't whether they were an Alabanza based host, but *which* Alabanza based host. IP lookup won't tell you that...

(and welcome aboard!)

[MSW]

Brandonk,

That wasn't abc's question. He already knows that the reseller is reselling for an Alabanza host. He wanted to know which host he was reselling for.

Brian Farkas had the correct solution - to telnet to port 25. That should tell them the host name, but that doesn't always work, but it is the best way.

[etLux]

Personally, when I want to know this I simply send an e-mail... and ask.