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06-02-2004, 06:46 PM #1working on it
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Gmail wings are clipped ?
http://thewhir.com/marketwatch/ca060104.cfm
CA Senate Passes Bill Limiting Gmail
June 1, 2004 -- (WEB HOST INDUSTRY REVIEW) -- The California state Senate approved a bill last Thursday that places restrictions on email providers seeking to scan their customers' messages for the purpose of advertising, according to a report in silicon.com.
Senator Liz Figueroa, the bill's author, said the legislation, which targets Google's (google.com) recently announced Gmail service, would guarantee that email communications remain private
Another report
http://google.weblogsinc.com/entry/2487273384983584/
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06-02-2004, 06:51 PM #2An Awesome Dude
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Now they will probably bombard everyone with spam (uugghh) -- No way to win
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06-02-2004, 06:52 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by The Dude
Now they will probably bombard everyone with spam (uugghh) -- No way to win
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06-02-2004, 06:57 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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What makes me wonder, if the senator is SOOOO worried about privacy why don't they go fight the Patriot Act rather than worry about a friggen free email service..
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06-02-2004, 06:58 PM #5MAOMPSMITCUT (rmbr this? lol)
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I think he meant Google will just bombard everyone with spam...
Personally, I don't like that Liz Figueroa one bit... If she doesn't want her email to be scanned, don't use GMail; there are tons of alternatives out there... who the f#(k cares?
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06-02-2004, 07:00 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Trifolic
What makes me wonder, if the senator is SOOOO worried about privacy why don't they go fight the Patriot Act rather than worry about a friggen free email service..
If a company (let's say a webhost for example) is emailing their client, google would display advertisements for other webhosting companies (competitors) which could possibly hurt the company that's doing the emailings.
Any ideas how google could potentially solve this problem?[COLOR=dark-blue]Matt Carpenter[/COLOR]
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06-02-2004, 07:03 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Trifolic
What makes me wonder, if the senator is SOOOO worried about privacy why don't they go fight the Patriot Act rather than worry about a friggen free email service..I am back....
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06-02-2004, 07:03 PM #8working on it
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Originally posted by Alfarin
I think he meant Google will just bombard everyone with spam...
Personally, I don't like that Liz Figueroa one bit... If she doesn't want her email to be scanned, don't use GMail; there are tons of alternatives out there... who the f#(k cares?
she is probably sore because they didnt give her an gmail account
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06-02-2004, 07:06 PM #9working on it
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Why cant they just get some big corporate sponsor to advertise in Gmails. Probably this is a turn around for the comeback of the good old banner ads.
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06-02-2004, 09:40 PM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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All google has to do is move out of the country.
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06-02-2004, 10:13 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by NIS_Brandon
All google has to do is move out of the country.
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06-02-2004, 10:21 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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but they could at least threaten to move there buissness out of the country, thinkin about it makes me wounder what the threat of loosing that level of workers and maybe buissness to american contractors
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06-02-2004, 11:01 PM #13Web Hosting Guru
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Just create a new subsidiary of Google, Inc. somewhere abroad which will run GMail. Should solve the problem.
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06-02-2004, 11:28 PM #14Junior Guru Wannabe
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That also works.
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06-02-2004, 11:36 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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hay...
anyone wants to start a gmail service
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06-02-2004, 11:38 PM #16Disabled
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For some reason, government and technology don't mix well.
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06-03-2004, 12:09 AM #17Web Hosting Evangelist
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Originally posted by silock
For some reason, government and technology don't mix well.
honestly i dont see why they are trying to prevent it. Most Internet users that know about Gmail already know about them scanning email and posting Ads. The only problem i do see about this is the fact that they could be hurting a companies business by advertising their competition in a email communication with a client.
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06-03-2004, 03:11 AM #18working on it
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Originally posted by Subhadip
Just create a new subsidiary of Google, Inc. somewhere abroad which will run GMail. Should solve the problem.
Maybe Google foresight: they already have a center in Bangalore City, India.
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06-03-2004, 03:54 AM #19AWS Developer GCP AZURE Devops
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Senate bill 1822, introduced in California in February, would prevent Google from scanning email messages for content without the consent of both recipient and sender.
don't know about the sender though !
maybe he will receive an confirmation (with of course a checkbox ) when he first tries to send an email to a gmail user the first time !Chris, Developer/Programmer,
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06-03-2004, 05:57 AM #20WHT Addict
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Originally posted by LanceCoder
Well, I belive the argument is this:
If a company (let's say a webhost for example) is emailing their client, google would display advertisements for other webhosting companies (competitors) which could possibly hurt the company that's doing the emailings.
Any ideas how google could potentially solve this problem?
When everyone reads an email on hotmail, it's surrounded by ads also.
I got one once from a female real estate agent, doing her best to look professional, reliable, trustworthy, inspire confidence... and next to her pic the whole length of the page... was the ad to find a date, with pictures of 3 more attractive women and the caption was "Someone wants to date you"
It's clear *consciously* that the agent wasn't the 4th in the list "who wants to date me". But does it really help her image to be associated subsconsiously like that? No.
It's all a mess.
I haven't dug into the gmail thing beyond the 4 bullet points on their webpage, but if that is "it", I'm surprised the google gang didn't come up with something more creative. Especially considering how flawed email is.
Maybe there's much more under the hood and/or planned they aren't talking about, yet.
If google blows it by blatently undermining the sender... some senders will simply not accept gmail addresses.. similar to how some don't accept hotmail, yahoo, and other free email.http://www.IwantFUI.com
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