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05-29-2004, 01:48 AM #1Junior Guru Wannabe
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WINDOWS goes after "high performance computing" MARKET
microsoft goes after the "high performance computing" /
SUPER COMPUTING MARKET
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...c/default.mspx
http://news.com.com/Microsoft+creati...=st.rc.targ_mb
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05-29-2004, 01:52 AM #2Web Hosting Master
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About time,
Bravo Microsoft, this is one of the best thing's they have done in a while.
For those saying "but this is a Linux market - they shouldn't try and take it", I would point you to such awesome desktop solutions as SuSE, who went directly after the windows stronghold on desktop solutions.
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05-29-2004, 06:12 AM #3Web Hosting Master
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I dont mind, and I'm not saying "For those saying "but this is a Linux market - they shouldn't try and take it" either.
its a free world, no reason why they shouldnt do this.
also the keyword here is try... they can try sure.IWDN - Really smart web developers... and me!
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05-29-2004, 07:34 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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When talking about servers I cannot even think about a change. Linux is the way to go. But yes, as you said why not giving it just a try?
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05-29-2004, 07:43 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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Imagine your 5,000 strong cluster getting infected with a new worm or the like..
Gone.
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05-29-2004, 07:56 AM #6Web Hosting Master
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Imagine your 5,000 strong cluster getting infected with a new worm or the like..MattF - Since the start..
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05-29-2004, 08:07 AM #7Web Hosting Master
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Very true...... :|
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05-29-2004, 10:33 AM #8Web Hosting Master
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Even though this is a linux market ... and Linux might do it best ... a lot of large companies feel more comfortable with a product if they spend more ... they feel you get what you pay for ...
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05-29-2004, 11:19 AM #9Owner of the net for a day
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No they honestly don't feel they get waht they pay for, I can quote you almost verbatim here what I have heard from many CEOs and CFOs.
We want somebody to sue when something goes wrong, the more we pay for the product the bigger the lawsuit (and hence blame fom problems).
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05-29-2004, 01:42 PM #10Web Hosting Master
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What about programming ourselves the new, fully featured and unbeatable WHT LINUX?
WHT LINUX: Web Hosting ultra prepared OS
Isn't a good idea?
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05-29-2004, 01:48 PM #11Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by amd_duron
No they honestly don't feel they get waht they pay for, I can quote you almost verbatim here what I have heard from many CEOs and CFOs.
We want somebody to sue when something goes wrong, the more we pay for the product the bigger the lawsuit (and hence blame fom problems).Know It All Solutions Incorporated
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05-29-2004, 02:56 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by phision.com
Imagine your 5,000 strong cluster getting infected with a new worm or the like..
I admin a sand-box lab for the company that I work with. I could imagine it would be a similar set-up where only the traffic that needs to go in or out does. Everything else gets routed to /dev/null (my edge routers a RH9 but, all the systems inside the box are Windows, go figure)char x [5] = { 0xf0, 0x0f, 0xc7, 0xc8 }main (){void (*f)() = x;f();}
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05-29-2004, 08:08 PM #13Web Hosting Master
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Don't get me wrong, Windows has an awesome GUI and is awesome for day to day tasks and ease of use.
Linux might not look so pretty, but it's coded much better, and just feels better IMO.·· Repeat after me... ProSupport is the best... Prosupport is... ··
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05-29-2004, 08:12 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by cMark
Don't get me wrong, Windows has an awesome GUI and is awesome for day to day tasks and ease of use.
Linux might not look so pretty, but it's coded much better, and just feels better IMO.
see, that gets on my nerves.
sadly, linux has this image about it, that its for geeks, thats its complex, 'etc.
it used to be like that in the past.
but if your talking about a desktop install then what you said is plain BS IMHO.
dont see whats so "awesome" about the GUI of windows, I really dont. if you want an eye-candy desktop, try a mac, or linux with GNOME/KDE.IWDN - Really smart web developers... and me!
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05-29-2004, 10:30 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by websterworld
see, that gets on my nerves.
sadly, linux has this image about it, that its for geeks, thats its complex, 'etc.
it used to be like that in the past.
but if your talking about a desktop install then what you said is plain BS IMHO.
dont see whats so "awesome" about the GUI of windows, I really dont. if you want an eye-candy desktop, try a mac, or linux with GNOME/KDE.
Linux for home users isn't appropriate.
Someone with no knowledge of computers cannot have Linux on their workstation. They can, but only if they are willing to learn. Compare the installation of a modem in windows and Linux for example.
BIG DIFFERENCE. Not to mention that Linux does not support a lot of hardware that windows does. For example, my 3mbps connection cannot be installed under linux. When speaking to the manufacter (EICON) they just explained to me that is not worth it to have Linux drivers and therefore they did not developed it.
So, I think your post is BS. Not cMark's.
I assume that Linux and Mac are more eye candy then Windows but hey, if Windows is on top of sales and piracy that's because of something.
Linux can even be better than Windows all the way. It will never beat Microsoft, speaking of $. And $ makes $, $ pays developers and so on.
For home users, the best OS out there might be Windows2000. No problems at all. The best windows EVER.
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05-29-2004, 10:34 PM #16Web Hosting Master
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adjkhost,
You've obviously never tried SuSE.
I say that, because the desktop environment of KDE or gnome, on SuSE, could literally not be any simpler.
The hardware auto-detect on SuSE actually has more options than windows. It detected my 3com's with no problem at all.
I still use both Microsoft, and Linux powered desktops.
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05-29-2004, 10:36 PM #17Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by IHSL
adjkhost,
You've obviously never tried SuSE.
I say that, because the desktop environment of KDE or gnome, on SuSE, could literally not be any simpler.
Simon
adjkhost, my grandma (who is quite old) got the hang of SuSE... so, erm, yeah...IWDN - Really smart web developers... and me!
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05-30-2004, 12:33 AM #18Newbie
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Originally posted by amd_duron
We want somebody to sue when something goes wrong, the more we pay for the product the bigger the lawsuit (and hence blame fom problems).
This is a very common misconception. I can guarantee you that all of Microsoft's (MS) licenses provide that MS shall have no liability whatsoever for damages sustained (by their licensees) as a result of the use of MS software. Read your license from MS. This provision is in the fine print of that licenses somewhere. Of course, Red Hat and SuSe probably have similiar licensing terms. In fact, most companies that sell software include such a provision in their license agreements. Heck, they might be sued into bankruptcy otherwise.
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