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Old 05-24-2004, 09:31 PM
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What motherboard is good for AMD Athlon MP?


Hello,

Currently myself want to test out Dual AMD Anthlon MP 2800, but do not know which motherboard would support up to Dual AMD MP 2800.

If anyone knows, can anyone tell me please!

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Old 05-25-2004, 12:14 AM
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MP?
or is it XP

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Old 05-25-2004, 12:29 AM
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Dual, so must be MP.

Try Tyan's motherboards - that's what I currently use on Dual Athlons MP. Couldn't be happier.

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Old 05-25-2004, 06:48 AM
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Second the Tyan series MB's for AMD's no problems at all with them.

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Old 05-25-2004, 10:50 AM
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Then I will go get Tyan then!

Thanks everybody who answered =)

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Old 05-25-2004, 08:50 PM
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I use a Tyan board for my personal workstation (dual 1.2Ghz Athlon MP), and it's quite stable.

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Old 05-25-2004, 10:12 PM
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Tyan is the way to go.


You need to stay away from the Tyan Tiger series or at least the early version of them. They will fry under the strain of the Dual 2800's.

Do yourself a favor and visit http://www.2cpu.com

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Old 05-25-2004, 10:18 PM
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I don't think the early versions were rated beyond 2600 were they?

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Old 05-25-2004, 10:28 PM
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The early tigers are rated higher than they can take by Tyan.
But the people who run them and run lots of them caution against anything more the 1900 without modding the board.

I have a few tigers and are very stable with 2000's (however I stick with the onboard video, if I added a real video card I think it would be a problem).


I also have a bunch of Thunders and you can load em up with just about anything.


But all in all best to dig around and find out from people who are doing similair stuff before you waste the cash.

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Old 05-25-2004, 10:43 PM
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We have a few of the Tigers running Dual 2400's with onboard video. No issues in over a year of service

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Old 05-25-2004, 11:05 PM
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Without any power sucking extras the Tigers should be pretty good. Add Raid and a VC and its going to be trouble. I believe there are also different versions where they changed rail that the CPU's pull power from to lighten the +5v Rail which was burning the ATX connector. You might have been lucky and got the good version.

The Asus A7m-266D is also a nice little dual Mobo. It supports the 2800's I think (has 2 Aux power connectors). This board however is discountinued and you will have to find it used or refurbished. The Asus in my experience is a much more noob friendly board. It seems to almost always work right away. Where the Tyan can be a real pain in the *** to get running. But once you get it running it will run forever.

Working on getting some Opterons That is going to be the deal

And X wanna buy some dual 1.7 Xeons pretty cheap?


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Old 05-25-2004, 11:12 PM
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hmmm Dual 1.7's? Might be good for DB servers

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Old 05-27-2004, 02:15 PM
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We have a few of the Tigers running Dual 2400's with onboard video
Tigers dont have onboard video. The Tiger series consist of the 2460 and the 2466MPX, neither of which have onboard video. The 2460 is the initial rendition, and does not include an integrated network card, whereas the 2466 does. You will need to use a PCI 2.2 compliant card (3.3V) in the 2466, whereas the 2460 will accept any PCI card.

You are referring to the Thunder series. Avoid the 2462 because it requires a WTX power supply which is definitely NOT standard.

The 2469 is your best bet. Latest MPX chipset, onboard vid, slanted ram slots, and optional scsi. Has a EPS power supply (24-pin plug, just like the dual Xeons).. do not use a standard power supply with the 20-pin unit, or you will need an adapter.

The rationale for using a Tyan board over other dual MP boards:
1) Intended to be a server board, not an "enthusiast board".
2) The first PCI slot, where your riser cards will plugin (For rackmount purposes) will be in the correct place. If you use the MSI board or ASUS board, the PCI slot is in the wrong place and you need a ribbon riser card.. talk about a pain in the ***.

EDIT: One more thing. Memory.

Dont bother buying anything but DDR2100, unless price is cheaper for faster ram.

If you elect to use one of the boards with an MPX chipset, you can use TWO sticks of REGULAR, nonECC, nonregistered ram. You cannot then populate the other slots with any ram at all. Using regular ram limits you to use of two slots.

If you use an older board (not MPX chipset), you MUST USE ECC-Registered ram.

My recommedation?

If this is a server, use ECC registered ram. Period.

Power Supplies: 350W minimum. Make sure you get the right type (EPS / Non-EPS / WTX) depending on which board. AMD power supplies must meet 30A on the 5V rail, so make sure its AMD certified.

Thats all I have for now. Enjoy your dual MPS

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Old 05-27-2004, 02:23 PM
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Dual, so must be MP.
If you feel sneaky, you can tweak your XP chips to make them MPS.

There is no structural architecture difference WHATSOEVER between the XP's and MP's.

However, I really cant recommend this for a remote server, as it cant really be considered reliable. For a home workstation its probably fine. Save a few bucks on XP chips versus MPs.

Shame you cant do that with the P4's to make them Xeons

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Old 05-30-2004, 09:28 PM
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do try Tyan tiger MPX (2466N-4M). we sold hundreds of dual MP2000 to the lastest MP2800 barton 2U rack-mount servers based on 2466 board with very good record of long-term reliability!

1. it requires only 300w standard ATX power vs 460w ATXEGS required by Thunder boards
2. it accepts 1~4pcs standard non-ECC PC2100 vs much more expensive ECC registered DDR reqired by Thunder.
3. standard ATX size which can fit any 2U+ rack-mount or tower case.

we use nVidia TNT2 AGP on 2466 board to provide video which is not important on a server. avoide using SiS video which won't POST on 2466.

update BIOS to v4.06 if dual barton's are to be installed.

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