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    * Media Bias and Censorship!!!

    I just wanted to know how many of you actually believed whats posted at

    http://www.fair.org/

    FAIR, the national media watch group, has been offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since 1986. We work to invigorate the First Amendment by advocating for greater diversity in the press and by scrutinizing media practices that marginalize public interest, minority and dissenting viewpoints. As an anti-censorship organization, we expose neglected news stories and defend working journalists when they are muzzled. As a progressive group, FAIR believes that structural reform is ultimately needed to break up the dominant media conglomerates, establish independent public broadcasting and promote strong non-profit sources of information.


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    It has some pretty convincing articles that clearly prove media's powerful role in bias and censorship especially in regards to the *so called* fair and balanced bull crap by Fox Network..

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    Each Empire rises with power and that same Empire comes down, because of the same power. Proven over and over again with other countrys. America is now one of them.
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    Re: Media Bias and Censorship!!!

    Originally posted by ForumsAddict
    I just wanted to know how many of you actually believed whats posted at

    http://www.fair.org/

    FAIR, the national media watch group, has been offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since 1986. We work to invigorate the First Amendment by advocating for greater diversity in the press and by scrutinizing media practices that marginalize public interest, minority and dissenting viewpoints. As an anti-censorship organization, we expose neglected news stories and defend working journalists when they are muzzled. As a progressive group, FAIR believes that structural reform is ultimately needed to break up the dominant media conglomerates, establish independent public broadcasting and promote strong non-profit sources of information.


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    It has some pretty convincing articles that clearly prove media's powerful role in bias and censorship especially in regards to the *so called* fair and balanced bull crap by Fox Network..
    Your posted site is apparently not very 'fair and balanced". And you must be sitting at home watching FOX all day and pulling out all your hairs. Are you bald yet? There are other channels that probably better fit your views . Try CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, BBC, PBS, NPR, Al-Jazeera, and may others that will probably fit your views. Al Gore has plans for your future viewing with his new liberal network, have you heard?

    You will apparently never understand what it is that attracts the majority of viewers to FOX. If you continue searchng far and wide, you will undoubtedly find other anti-FOX web sites. There are just as many or more FOX defenders out there (you forgot to post any of those).

    Meanwhile, keep watching and you too might become a FOX fan. O'REALLY!

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    Originally posted by Torith
    Each Empire rises with power and that same Empire comes down, because of the same power. Proven over and over again with other countrys. America is now one of them.
    How did your subject get into this thread?

    But, one simple question:

    Is the U.S. an empire? If so, then why do we tolerate so many anti-American voices around the world. How many of the countries around the world have become colonies of the U.S.? How many of the countries of the world would be easy pickings if the U.S. was really an empire? Who could stop us? In general, where the U.S. has had a presence, the country or region has ultimately been better off! History proves it. In the empires of the past, the mother country has been the benefiary of any conquests.

    The U.S. is not ruled by an emperor. If you want to insist on calling the U.S. an empire, then its citizens are the emperors. The 'citizen emperors' are then democratically electing "Lead Emperors" to administer the empire's rules. The 'citizen emperors' in the U.S. have a chance to re-elect or throw out their leaders every 2, 4 and 6 years.

    How many emperors in the past were democratically elected? Did they serve 2, 4 or 6 years depending upon how people felt about them?

    OR, are you just another jealous, anti-American hater?

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    I think it's impossible for any reporter to be totally unbiased. I know many, probably even most, try very hard to just report and not slant their reports one way or another, but since everyone sees things from their own perspective, it's just not possible to be totally unbiased.

    It's like talking to a lot of witnesses to one particular event, you will get many different versions of what happened. It's not because they are all trying to slant the story to make a point, it's because they all saw the same thing from their own point of view. You will get the same thing from a reporter who leans more liberal vs. a reporter who leans more conservative. They may see or hear the exact same thing but since their perspectives are different about life/politics, what they see or hear will be different even though it was the same event, so their reports will probably be a bit different too. It's not necessarily that they are PURPOSELY trying to slant things, it's just that they saw things from their own perspectives. Everyone here does the same thing, we'll see a report about an event and we come to an opinion based on what we saw and heard from our own perspectives. If the reporter or commentator that you are watching/hearing/reading is saying what you think is right, you agree with them and think that's right. If you disagree, you go ooohh that's sooo biased!

    The best thing is to try to see different reports from different reporters with different perspectives. The truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

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    Originally posted by adorno
    In general, where the U.S. has had a presence, the country or region has ultimately been better off! History proves it.

    So true indeed. The Native Americans got tv, cars, electricity, guns, microwave ovens, cigarette lighters, computers...........all in exchange for their land, rivers, trees and natural resources. Long live America, the greatest democracy in the world.


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    This reminds my of a movie, in which a presidential candidate had the slogan: "God bless America and no place else!"
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    You didnt get what I was saying. America is like a Empire. It has power, money, and its wierd quarks. When it reaches it up soon will follow its down fall. Also I live in America and I do not hate it. I think by just you saying that just shows the real you. No country can stay at the peak forever.


    Originally posted by adorno
    How did your subject get into this thread?

    But, one simple question:

    Is the U.S. an empire? If so, then why do we tolerate so many anti-American voices around the world. How many of the countries around the world have become colonies of the U.S.? How many of the countries of the world would be easy pickings if the U.S. was really an empire? Who could stop us? In general, where the U.S. has had a presence, the country or region has ultimately been better off! History proves it. In the empires of the past, the mother country has been the benefiary of any conquests.

    The U.S. is not ruled by an emperor. If you want to insist on calling the U.S. an empire, then its citizens are the emperors. The 'citizen emperors' are then democratically electing "Lead Emperors" to administer the empire's rules. The 'citizen emperors' in the U.S. have a chance to re-elect or throw out their leaders every 2, 4 and 6 years.

    How many emperors in the past were democratically elected? Did they serve 2, 4 or 6 years depending upon how people felt about them?

    OR, are you just another jealous, anti-American hater?

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    So true indeed. The Native Americans got tv, cars, electricity, guns, microwave ovens, cigarette lighters, computers...........all in exchange for their land, rivers, trees and natural resources. Long live America, the greatest democracy in the world.

    You always seem to have anti-american comments. I have probably seen you in every thread that has something to do with american policies.

    I have some questions for you:

    1. Why do you seem to have an anti-american point of view?

    2. What do you think about your country and it's military slaughtering people in Kashmir?

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    Originally posted by dk2
    You always seem to have anti-american comments. I have probably seen you in every thread that has something to do with american policies.

    I have some questions for you:

    1. Why do you seem to have an anti-american point of view?

    2. What do you think about your country and it's military slaughtering people in Kashmir?
    1. Because I have a point of view. If it is anti-American [or some people think it is] I cant help it.

    2. To defend its people and territory. And they dont slaughter people of Kashmir......they kill the militants in encounters. It is these militants who have slaughtered innocent women and children in the valley, including abducting foreign tourists one of who was beheaded.

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    The media is very bias as well as anti-white and anti american. Most news reports are anti-white, such as the racial profiling accusations that went on for a while. To be honest, im sure some of the acts of racial profiling did occur, but i never heard of blacks doing it agaisnt whites, which I no for a fact happens. I was pulled over for no reason by a black cop and searched, and at the end giving me a ticket for not having a seat belt (Which I had). The media always turns a blind eye when the crime is agianst the majority.

    The media is also Anti-America. They make conitinues reports on people dying in Iraq, how bad the U.S is doing extra. My I ask you a question how come there arent any reports on NOT ONE TERRORIST ATTACK ON US TERRORITORY SINCE 9/11! The media seems to turn a blind eye to that. What about all the plans the great President Bush has made to combat terrorism. Or what about the tac refund that he has given to people.

    The media is ran by jews and leberials,and only report on material that is pro their beliefs. they all show the lieberal side and the "Anti-War protests" that supposidly went on. Yet they didnt show the TONS of PROWAR protests.

    Clearly the media is byssed and is very liberal, anti-white and anti american

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    Why are certain powerful countries biased about liberating people of other countries ? Why have they not liberated Tibet and given back freedom to its people ? Because there are no oil wells in Tibet ? Because these powerful countries value their trade relationhship with China more than the human values of Tibetans ?

    The media also reports the truth.

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    to me the media only reports "Half truth" They usally only tell you half of the story or only bits and pieces of it. (from my exsperiance they do this)


    Originally posted by RajanUrs
    Why are certain powerful countries biased about liberating people of other countries ? Why have they not liberated Tibet and given back freedom to its people ? Because there are no oil wells in Tibet ? Because these powerful countries value their trade relationhship with China more than the human values of Tibetans ?

    The media also reports the truth.
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    Originally posted by adorno
    are you just another jealous, anti-American hater?
    I love this kind of statements comming from blind people, really, love it.

    I don't know who was the first idiot who told "they hate us because they're jealous", but seems like a lot of people want to belive that instead of see the reality.

    Once you see the true, you have 2 options, or ignore it and keep living as you are doing, or try to change the things for better.
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    why is it that everyone who has an opinion has to be called a bigot or racist?

    sorry, thats just using bad psychology to squelch someones opinion. if he does reside in the US one of the greatest things about this country is that he is entitled to his opinion just as YOU are.
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    Ok to start, I am Jewish myself. Second, I am in uniform I am currently in the NJROTC, which is not the real army yet, but I will be inlisting in the Marines, so dont say that I am a biggot or what not because I am not. And im not a hillbilly, im from New Jersey.

    And, I have been pulled over for just being white, which you would have no base to say whether or not I have or have not seeing as you dont no me.

    The Media is extremely pro minority, they never like to show things bad happening to the majority, which is the white people although they soon wouldnt be with all the immigrants coming it.

    What about the all the killings Saddamn Hussien has done on his own people. Some sources say that they were up to 800,000 killed on his behalf.

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    Possibly because there was no terrorist attack on U.S. soil since 9/11? Where have you been for the past 3 years?[/qoute]

    I have been here in the US, what attack in the United States has happend terrorist related, exept the anthrax scare?

    Care to delve deeper into this inspiring Anti-semetic, partisan, bigoted rant? What has 'the great President Bush' done to combat terrorism. Seems like the only one we've caught is Saddam, and that wasn't even in our own country.
    Who the hell do you think you are calling me a Anti-semetic, or bigoted?!The United States has based its counter-terrorist strategy on several steps: Denial of safe havens in which terrorists can train and equip members ;Restriction of funding of terrorist organizations;Degradation of terrorist networks by capturing and/or killing intermediate leaders;Detention of suspected and known terrorists. See the section below for further details ;Obtaining information, through various techniques, allegedly including torture, from captured terrorists of other members of their organization, training sites, methods, and funding;Expanding and improving efficiency of intelligence capabilities and foreign and domestic policing.

    Some of the best Anti Terrorist plans are being done outside the country, seeing is that's where its formed


    this guy is racist, prejudice, and overall a bigot
    Clearly, you have no idea about me, and you know what if I have beliefs that are more extreme then yours, you have abosolutley no right to say that stuff to me. Your comments are compeltely out of line and childish.

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    Originally posted by Jedito
    I love this kind of statements comming from blind people, really, love it.

    I don't know who was the first idiot who told "they hate us because they're jealous", but seems like a lot of people want to belive that instead of see the reality.

    Once you see the true, you have 2 options, or ignore it and keep living as you are doing, or try to change the things for better.
    I've seen your posts before and, YES, you are anti-American. In your eyes, America is the source of all that is evil in the world, and Bush is worse than Bin Laden and Hussein.

    Tell me about being blind!

    I used to be a democrat to the point where I would say I was even liberal. Education and experience teaches you a lot. How could I have been so blind before???!!!!!

    Liberalism and appeasement destroys peoples' will and energy. I have changed to the point where I consider myself republican, maybe even conservative. That's not to say that everything Bush or the republican congress does is Ok by me; I disagree with many of their positions.

    Before you classify me as another white, anti-minority, cruel republican, let me tell you where I'm coming from.

    I was born in Puerto Rico and was brought to N.Y. when I was 10. I lived in poverty in P.R. and in N.Y. (Harlem). I saw and experienced first hand what being black or hispanic meant. It meant that unless you make an effort on your own you will always be a poor minority. The government can give you handouts and keep you from starving. What king of existence is that? I saw new generations going in cycles to the same handout/poverty existence. The liberals and democrats depend on people continuing in that vicious cycle for their votes. I got sick and tired of seeing that. Life is hard and unless you do things for yourself, you get nowhere. Yes, people need help, but not to the point where they are dependent all their lives. Liberalism, socialism, communism create contented societies, but not vibrant, progressive societies.

    There are jealous, American haters in the world. It is all around us. And, YES, you can be an American and still hate America.

    I'll be around..

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    Originally posted by adorno
    [B]I've seen your posts before and, YES, you are anti-American. In your eyes, America is the source of all that is evil in the world, and Bush is worse than Bin Laden and Hussein.
    In your eyes I'm anti-american, and I don't care really.
    Bush is bad, period, I don't know if is worse than bin laden (a ex CIA payroll) and Hussein (an ex partner).
    Tell me about being blind!
    ?!?!?

    I used to be a democrat to the point where I would say I was even liberal. Education and experience teaches you a lot. How could I have been so blind before???!!!!!

    Liberalism and appeasement destroys peoples' will and energy. I have changed to the point where I consider myself republican, maybe even conservative. That's not to say that everything Bush or the republican congress does is Ok by me; I disagree with many of their positions.

    Before you classify me as another white, anti-minority, cruel republican, let me tell you where I'm coming from.

    I was born in Puerto Rico and was brought to N.Y. when I was 10. I lived in poverty in P.R. and in N.Y. (Harlem). I saw and experienced first hand what being black or hispanic meant. It meant that unless you make an effort on your own you will always be a poor minority. The government can give you handouts and keep you from starving. What king of existence is that? I saw new generations going in cycles to the same handout/poverty existence. The liberals and democrats depend on people continuing in that vicious cycle for their votes. I got sick and tired of seeing that. Life is hard and unless you do things for yourself, you get nowhere. Yes, people need help, but not to the point where they are dependent all their lives. Liberalism, socialism, communism create contented societies, but not vibrant, progressive societies.
    Why should I care me your history? I live in Argentina and always been living here, so? what is your point?

    There are jealous, American haters in the world. It is all around us. And, YES, you can be an American and still hate America.
    I'll be around..
    Jealous of what?? of your liberty? I'm more free than any american now thanks to bush and his patriot act.
    Can you tell me jealous of what???

    Is pretty stupid to think that people around the world hate to USA because they're jealous. Why they hate to USA and not Sweden? (best live standar and more liberty than in the USA) why they don't have to Japan?.

    That excuse is comming from people who don't want to see what their contry is doing wrong on the world, or maybe, worst, people who can't see it.
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    Of course every country's media is bias. It's just the way it is. US media is leaning a certian way and Arab media leans a certian way. That's life!

    I do get a kick out of those folks who have never lived in other cultures, who sit back on their little 'puter and sprout off insults about other folks being ignorant, while they are so completely diluded to think their world view is the correct view and everyone else is simply wrong. Hilarious stuff!

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    I have always lived here, this doesn't mean that I didn't traveled around the world.

    Will you ask me proof of that? I can scan my passport if you want, but, hey, I guess that you'll run again after that.
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    Originally posted by adorno
    I've seen your posts before and, YES, you are anti-American.
    The term anti-American is quite remarkable in my opinion, since it's mostly used in totalitarian societies like anti-soviet (during Stalin) , anti german (during Hitler), anti-spanish (during Franco).
    Basically it's mostly used by people believing in strong leadership and jingoists, thus the leader (or leading class) sets out what's good. Anyone going against this is considerd to be "anti it" and can be basically dismissed cause the leading class is always right in their eyes. They believe the general population is too stupid and needs to be "guided" in a top down mentality. A nice example of this is the tax cuts for the rich. This means you need to keep the leading class happy and hope that something nice finally comes out for you in the end.
    The top down mentality, which you can see nicely in corporations. The boss says what needs to be done, you don't question it, well if you would you would basically be fired (get out of the country you anti-American).
    The term anti-American should just be laughed away, just like for instance the term anti-Brazilian is laughed away.

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    Originally posted by LaurenStephens
    why is it that everyone who has an opinion has to be called a bigot or racist?

    sorry, thats just using bad psychology to squelch someones opinion. if he does reside in the US one of the greatest things about this country is that he is entitled to his opinion just as YOU are.
    Some folks are so completely diluded (within their little bubble) that they actually believe that their opinions form the basis of all universal truth, while someone else with a different opinion is completely wrong. IMO, that is the height of arrogance and extreme ignorance. I feel sorry for these people, trapped in their own little world, thinking they're "right".

    We all have opinions and understanding, based on our life experience. Those opinions are not "right", but they are right for us, and will probably change in the coming years, as we age and have new life experiences. If someone else holds a different opinion on a matter, then that opinion is not neccessarily wrong, but it's just different. I wonder why that liberatingly simple concept is almost impossible for us to fully grasp?

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    Originally posted by LaurenStephens
    why is it that everyone who has an opinion has to be called a bigot or racist?

    People can have opinions bigot and racist, It can be an opion but that opinion can be racist, why not?

    I what hittler tought on the 30's and 40's? his opinion was that they Jews were the worst thing of the world and they should be killed.

    Is an opinion, but it was clearly racist.
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    Originally posted by Aussie Bob
    Some folks are so completely diluded (within their little bubble) that they actually believe that their opinions form the basis of all universal truth, while someone else with a different opinion is completely wrong. IMO, that is the height of arrogance and extreme ignorance. I feel sorry for these people, trapped in their own little world, thinking they're "right".
    First time ever that I agree with you, people living in a bubble denying the reallity even when it explode in their faces, is to feel sorry about them.
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