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    very low cost servers? (learning machines)

    Does anyone know of anyone offering very lost cost hosted machines (like sub-$40) that are designed for people to try things out, learn things, etc

    We once had a couple of very low spec machines (p350's I think) in the UK that we played about with.
    Just wondering if theres anything similar here (North America)

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    Originally posted by PSFServers
    http://www.sprocketnetworks.com/dedicated/ for $35.
    60gb of monthly transfer for $199/month. I think the owners need to be drug tested.

    Do a Host Quote , I am sure someone can find you a good setup for the price you are looking for.

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    Originally posted by sirius
    60gb of monthly transfer for $199/month. I think the owners need to be drug tested.

    Do a Host Quote , I am sure someone can find you a good setup for the price you are looking for.

    Sirius
    For $35 and $0 setup you will have the best testing server you can find at sprocket. These guys are gurus and will provide hand holding for you. I know them personally<not self promotion>. Look no further.

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    Yeh, that was the kind of thing we were talking about
    Any others just out of interest?
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    I'd suggest buying an old computer and testing it locally, as well as getting a remote machine - this way you can install as many distros as possible, screw around with linux, and not worry about having to pay a datacenter to reinstall a machine for you. We do our offline testing on a P2 350Mhz in the office, but we've used WholesaleInternet's budget servers for our online testing. Contact them to see if they have any $35/month servers still available.

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    Originally posted by PSFServers
    For $35 and $0 setup you will have the best testing server you can find at sprocket. These guys are gurus and will provide hand holding for you. I know them personally<not self promotion>. Look no further.
    hand holding? Give me a break, they had better wash my car and give my dog a bath at those prices.

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    try a VPS?
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    wholesaleinternet $35 can get u a little like 400 or 500mhz box with 100gigs transfer. good network good guys.

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    Originally posted by sirius
    60gb of monthly transfer for $199/month. I think the owners need to be drug tested.


    Yeah, they had to be high for coming up with those specs. How in the hell do you find a server with a 2GB Hard drive. Then they have the nerve to offer only 5GB of transfer with 1 IP , you can get more on a reseller package.

    You can find a Celeron 1GHZ 40GB HD 100GB bandwidth for $49 per month. http://www.nocster.com/closeout.shtml

    Or you can use the Host Quote.
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    Get a VPS from linode. Very easy to wipe it clean and put on a different distro of linux if you're trying them out.

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    I'd agree a VPS would be a good step for your budget. With some you get remote reboot and remote re-install/rescue/repair which is perfect for testing. Add in a wrong iptables rule? Just put your VPS into repair mode, remove the rule, and then boot it up normally. Failed upgrade? Reinstall your VPS to how it was when it was given to you in a few minutes time.
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    Originally posted by daejuanj


    Yeah, they had to be high for coming up with those specs. How in the hell do you find a server with a 2GB Hard drive. Then they have the nerve to offer only 5GB of transfer with 1 IP , you can get more on a reseller package..
    I think you're the only one making absurd comments here. Do you have any experience with Sprocket at all? The world is not simply about price & quantity. There are many other factors to consider in choosing a company.

    The low-end server models offered by Sprocket are an excellent value. I'd take 5GB of Sprocket transfer over 100GB from nocster any day.

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    Originally posted by TheWiseOne
    I'd agree a VPS would be a good step for your budget. With some you get remote reboot and remote re-install/rescue/repair which is perfect for testing. Add in a wrong iptables rule? Just put your VPS into repair mode, remove the rule, and then boot it up normally. Failed upgrade? Reinstall your VPS to how it was when it was given to you in a few minutes time.
    I never knew you could do so much with a VPS. Well, I guess it would also be wise to get a VPS account, if you can't find a dedicated server in your price range, Dinix has something you might be interested in http://dinix.com/hosting/virtual.htm
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    Dinix doesn't offer any of those features.. at least not advertised.
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    Originally posted by TheWiseOne
    Dinix doesn't offer any of those features.. at least not advertised.
    Oh, didn't know, well who does?
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    Originally posted by sirius
    hand holding? Give me a break, they had better wash my car and give my dog a bath at those prices.

    Sirius
    seriously what kind of dedicated server has 2GB of Space and 5GIG Bandwidth and only 64MB of Ram my god thats worse than most shared hosting accounts not to mention $35 a month, these people must be using this.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...129670900&rd=1


    opps wait it has a 4.3 GB HD
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    Originally posted by Reyox Stephen
    seriously what kind of dedicated server has 2GB of Space and 5GIG Bandwidth and only 64MB of Ram my god thats worse than most shared hosting accounts not to mention $35 a month, these people must be using this.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...129670900&rd=1


    opps wait it has a 4.3 GB HD
    Yeah, thats what I was trying to point out, if I were looking for a server, and had $50 to spend, I would get the best bang for my buck. Not saying that Sprocket is a bad company, but come on, there are companies with a better network that offer better server specs.
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    I hope Sprocket gives you a reach-around first.

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    Someone is willing to pay $90 for that thing? I should start holding out for more on our used servers

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    Re: very low cost servers? (learning machines)

    Originally posted by robdavy
    [B]Does anyone know of anyone offering very lost cost hosted machines (like sub-$40) that are designed for people to try things out, learn things, etc
    B]
    Hey the man wanted a sub $40 server and I steared him to sprocket. Why you guys want to want to join this thread to bad mouth their other plans is really off topic.

    This is a unique offering, and has nothing to do with the other things their company does. Sure, You can buy a Mercedes now for about $20,000; but they also make them at $200,000. You must judge the value between the other two in your own thread.

    He could get a $35 server for $0 down. Where else can you do that? They run a very nice shop there, Jeff and Glenn are very good guys.

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    I have looked at limode. This seems like a very sweet solution. Any differences in haveing your own dedicated box?

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    Re: very low cost servers? (learning machines)

    Originally posted by robdavy
    Does anyone know of anyone offering very lost cost hosted machines (like sub-$40) that are designed for people to try things out, learn things, etc

    We once had a couple of very low spec machines (p350's I think) in the UK that we played about with.
    Just wondering if theres anything similar here (North America)

    Thanks
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    Pros for linode:
    Cheap
    Easy reinstall of os using control panel
    Kernel upgrades handled for you
    Chris gives you pretty nice support
    Lisk mode lets you attach to a screen attached to terminal on localhost so if you lock yourself out with firewall rules you can just get back in.

    Cons for linode:
    Cannot compile custom kernel. Limitation of VDS is that the admin needs to compile new kernels.
    Shared so late night crons all hit the disk at once and it gets really slow. Doing work on server becomes a pain. Not a big deal for a learning server.

    For learning, a linode account is a great choice.

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    Originally posted by Reyox Stephen
    seriously what kind of dedicated server has 2GB of Space and 5GIG Bandwidth and only 64MB of Ram my god thats worse than most shared hosting accounts not to mention $35 a month, these people must be using this.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...129670900&rd=1


    opps wait it has a 4.3 GB HD
    hehehe, nice one

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    Ok, before this gets to heated, it was a hyperthetical question.
    The reason I asked is because we used to rent a machine in the UK about 2 years ago.
    It was a p166, with 64mb ram and a 4gb hard drive, and 5gb/month.
    We paid 47/month (inc vat).
    Partly because we wanted a machine in the UK, but also because we just wanted a machine some of our guys could play with.

    One thing that makes me laugh about the US server market, is that the market has got to the point where providers are battling to give potential customers so much, without actually thinking what they need.

    Sproket is a great example. I bet they've got loads of $35/month customers. College Students, Kids learning remote linux, small companies, etc.

    So to all those $80-250/month server people, I say think about what people are using them for. You might find a whole new market
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    Originally posted by robdavy
    One thing that makes me laugh about the US server market, is that the market has got to the point where providers are battling to give potential customers so much, without actually thinking what they need.
    "Why use bull dozer when a shovel will do.". Actually, that is a famous Sprocket quotation.

    Not only are these excellent learning servers, they make a great off-site dns machine. And if needed, I promise you, these servers could fill a T1 in a hurry.

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    Exactly!
    I'm glad someone agrees
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    IMO if you want a server to do testing with, try www.globaldc.com
    (Note: I don't have any firsthand experience but I remember seeing a $20 server there a long time ago)

    Also, If you want a company to laugh at: www.snohio.net << I live not too far from the datacenter, but I would never host with them: One Connection (Broadwing) and Horrid Bandwidth prices. Hey, Businesses can afford $25 for 2 gb bandwidth so thats how they stay in business (aside from being the only datacenter in East Cincinnatti, Ohio).

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    Originally posted by z280 Hosting
    IMO if you want a server to do testing with, try www.globaldc.com
    Yeah, looking through there site I see:
    XEON 500MHZ
    128Meg Ram
    9 Gig SCSI HD
    Unmetered Bandwidth
    29.95 a month

    You could get red hat linux, since if you know how to run it, you can basicly use most of the other *nix OS's.
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    Yeah I know its unmetered , but whats it matter when its just a test server?

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    Originally posted by z280 Hosting
    Yeah I know its unmetered , but whats it matter when its just a test server?
    I know, thats why I said he could go with them.
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    Oh, sorry. I read things differently then others sometimes.

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    Originally posted by z280 Hosting
    Oh, sorry. I read things differently then others sometimes.
    It's cool.

    But anyway, i would like to know who he decides to go with?
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    As I said, its hyperthetical, to stimulate some conversation
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    Somewhere in the dedicated servers offer forum is something about a test/learning box for $39/month. I signed up with them, they upgraded me to the following specs for only $49/month.

    2GHz Celeron (P4)
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    80GB IDE
    100GB bandwidth
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    $0 Setup!!!!

    This is actually now a production box of mine, which is sweet. Aside from the ...control panel... it's a good deal. Anyway, customer service is excellent, highly recommend them. Dunno if they still actually have any more of these $49 servers, but their AIM is servebydesigncom I THINK.
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