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    VPSColo vs Dinix vs PowerVPS

    I've been working all weekend evaluating VPS offers.
    Have to move my domain (currently on a shared hosting) which seems to use high cpu resources for a shared enviroenment.

    I Have no forums, but a links directory with perl cgi for banner rotation, links hit counting script and db txt search cgi. Very few and small images, but a lot of hits... 14 Gb traffic per month.
    (i'm too popular )

    From my reseach, looks like VPSColo , DINIX and PowerVPS are those closer to my budget. 30-40 USD month.
    Linode and Webair and some others did not catched my interest at first impact, servint too expensive.

    According to plans I've choosen I collected these info:

    Technology:
    Dinix and PowerVPS use Vituozzo while VPSColo UML.

    VPS per server:
    Dinix: 30
    PowerVPS: 20
    VPSColo: 16

    RAM guarant.
    All 3 offer 128 Mb

    CPU guarant. Mhz:
    PoweVPS: 256
    VPSColo: 150
    Dinix: 128

    Bandwidth Gb:
    Dinix: 75
    VPSColo: 50
    Dinix: 50

    IP
    VPSColo: 10
    Dinix: 2
    PoweVPS: 2

    Disk Gb
    Dinix: 6
    VPS Colo: 4
    PoweVPS: 3

    Personal considerations:
    Since i'm still mostly ignorant of virtualization, from what I've learned reading posts, Virtuozzo allow a better separation of resources, but it costs. That was the impression I've got. (maybe i'm wrong). So Dinix and PowerVPS up.

    About Dinix i've read of some users, claiming on memory and speed. Maybe 30 VPS per Server loads too much ? and how can guarantee 128 Mb ram x VPS on Xeon 2x2.4 ?

    About VPSColo, I've read good reviews, but I've learned they are 5 months old. So maybe still too young, and still generous resources on their unloaded VPS ?

    PowerVPS: they allow 20 VPS per server, and have max ram of 2 Gb, but their 29.95 offer is really aggressive. They Guarantee also 256 Mhz. But they do not seems to be so popular.

    Btw: those 3 companies appeared as the most interesting for me.

    I still have many doubts and questions that will try to solve writing to them.

    What's your opinion ?
    need some help...

    Simon

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    I would check out DefenderHosting @

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    There plans are located there


    For $40.00 a month you can get ALOT.

    I'm currently with the Standard VPS plan And i love it. no problems what so ever.. maybe 1-2 downtimes for updates.


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    Like i said i'm currently hosted with them and they are very good no problems at all

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    Sounds interesting.

    But need to add 5 Usd per C-Panel

    and nowhere is stated how many VPS per server they allow....

    tnx

    Simon

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    Yes the $5.00 is a small fee but its worth it

    Email them and ask them.. it must not be alot because my VPS is working very good... i have no problems.. everything's fast

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    About Dinix i've read of some users, claiming on memory and speed. Maybe 30 VPS per Server loads too much ? and how can guarantee 128 Mb ram x VPS on Xeon 2x2.4 ?
    30/server is not too many per server. It is a matter of simple math, actually: Dinix does not in any way oversell their servers. There are only as many VPS's, as there are physical resources available on the physical box.


    The Math:
    4 GB RAM on the physical box, divided by max. 30 VPS100 VPS's = 136.5 MB RAM per VPS

    The Total Picture:
    So even on a server with the maximum VPS 100's possible, only 3840 MB of the physical RAM is allocated to VPSs. 256 MB remains as buffer + for Virtuozzo, which is more than ample


    In the end it is a question of just how much you need in terms of resources, for your VPS. Dinix gives you extra disk space, the other companies appear to give you a bit more guaranteed minimum processing power (assuming that you are comparing equivalent plans of course).

    Anyway just wanted to make it clear that the Dinix plans are not oversold. The only way there could be "too many" per server is if they were oversold. Every VPS always has its minimum resources available to it. HTH!!!!

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    VPScolo is owned by jvds which has been around longer then 5 months. I vote vpscolo rus is a great guy and knows his stuff when it comes to vds
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    bithost,
    yes 30 is not too much, I've read of companies allowing more...
    but even if 30 is not much, 20 by PowerVPS and 16 by VPScolo is less.

    About resources I need, I don't care much of disk space, (700 Mb are enought) but CPU and RAM avaible, since I will not use my VPS to resell but will dedicate mainly to my domain, that seems to be resource expensive.

    Simon

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    VPSColo as stated is a branch of JVDS which has been around a long time. I have been with them for the last three months and have been very happy.

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    You may want to read closer and I am not sure if its true I assume so because this is right off the vpscolo site.
    (16 VPSs per CPU) so in a dual system as they have listed on their site thats 32 per server not 16.


    Originally posted by simon70
    bithost,
    yes 30 is not too much, I've read of companies allowing more...
    but even if 30 is not much, 20 by PowerVPS and 16 by VPScolo is less.

    About resources I need, I don't care much of disk space, (700 Mb are enought) but CPU and RAM avaible, since I will not use my VPS to resell but will dedicate mainly to my domain, that seems to be resource expensive.

    Simon

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    Thanks Paul that was a correct observation.
    I'm investigating this important feature with vpscolo.

    Simon

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    For CPU we generally state a max of 32 but real world is about 20 per host machine now with VPSColo and this gives good performance to everyone

    Rus
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    Nothing against the other vps providers you mentioned...
    You may want to give a second glance at servint.com
    They do have excellent support, network, and great hardware.
    Give them what your needs are and they will tell you honestly if it will work. The little extra $ I pay for servint.com is worth it to me.
    PM me if you need more info on servint.com

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    Originally posted by simon70
    bithost,
    yes 30 is not too much, I've read of companies allowing more...
    but even if 30 is not much, 20 by PowerVPS and 16 by VPScolo is less.
    Props to Paul's observation; I should also mention that, this is only assuming that all physical servers are the same. Each host has a unique physical server config. The physical server ("hostnode") at Dinix is different from vpscolo.com is different from PowerVPS, etc. Straight number comparisons of "we put this many VPS's on a server" is not comparing apples to apples.

    FWIW, Dinix does not usually load their hostnodes all the way to 30 either. The maximum stated on the website is only a maximum. The VPS100 servers in particular are always in a state of flux as customers grow their sites and server needs, and upgrade to bigger VPS's... so there are usually 20-25 per hostnode (physical server), not the full 30.

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    any comments on PowerVPS ?

    Maybe they are too joung in the market ?

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    Originally posted by jvds
    For CPU we generally state a max of 32 but real world is about 20 per host machine now with VPSColo and this gives good performance to everyone

    Rus
    I have to disagree Rus, it gives GREAT performance having been a customer of Dinix and vpscolo my vote goes with vpscolo, performance is consistant and support, if needed, is great
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    Originally posted by dsotmoon
    I have to disagree Rus, it gives GREAT performance having been a customer of Dinix and vpscolo my vote goes with vpscolo, performance is consistant and support, if needed, is great
    I agree with dsotmoon, Customer service wise VPSColo and Dinix rocks.

    In my personal experience of running both side by side I had less lag with VPSColo.

    Network wise the nod goes to Dinix, but I have not had any real network problems with VPSColo, and Rus really stands behind everything and goes above and beyond the call of duty with VPSColo.

    I also like the community forum at VPScolo with great people like Jhorra, Dsotmoon and many others. Very helpful group of users there and at JVDS.com.

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    you might also want to check out www.ServInt.com/vps

    been with them for more than two years now and i also got a VPS with them since about half a year, and it has been running and running and running... i didn't notice any major downtime or slowness yet!
    Highly recommend!
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    Same here... servint.com for their vps product. Great hardware, support, and network.
    Very happy with their product.
    Questions? You may IM me if needed.

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    Hi

    I am with VPS Colo there are some months and happy with service.

    Regards.
    Rusky

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    VPSCOLO would be the best choice...

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    I must say I fully support Dinix - I was a customer of theirs for months before I sold off my sites and no longer needed a VPS - awesome support and very eay to use all of their support, billing and all other features.

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    I curent have a VPS from dinix and looks to me very good
    Untill now I have not down time (last 2 Months ) and no proplem .
    The VPScolo looks good
    You can try sinse the have zero setup fee . If you dont like it you can change easly

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    Re: VPSColo vs Dinix vs PowerVPS

    About Dinix i've read of some users, claiming on memory and speed. Maybe 30 VPS per Server loads too much ? and how can guarantee 128 Mb ram x VPS on Xeon 2x2.4 ?[/B]
    Dinix is the only VPS we've had, so I can't really compare them to the other places, but I will say that I've been entirely happy with them. Doing 'normal' stuff, we've had no problems whatsoever; our 'memory problems' consisted of us trying to run cPanel (as a DNS server, webserver, mailserver, DNS server...) and a 10+ person CounterStrike server all in a single VPS 100 with 128 MB RAM. It's completely insane to even try this -- it's nothing to do with Dinix, and everything to do with the fact that 128 MB RAM is nowhere near enough. (The combo actually worked out pretty well until lately, when our CS server started attracting more and more people and was really interfering with cPanel.)

    Anyway, provided you're not doing anything totally lunatic like we tried, I think you'll be extremely pleased with Dinix. Even with the cheapest plan, our server *flies*, and it's on pure Internap bandwidth to boot, so we get extremely fast load times. Again, I can't offer comparisons with other places, but I will say that, short of things we've caused ourselves, we've had no problems at all with Dinix and that I've been extremely pleased.

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    Originally posted by thelinuxguy
    VPScolo is owned by jvds which has been around longer then 5 months. I vote vpscolo rus is a great guy and knows his stuff when it comes to vds
    I second that, have two VPS's with them atm.
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    Because of all of the fabulous reviews for VPScolo, I decided to sign up last night. Paid the setup fee and all that good stuff. Now just waiting to get started. I can't wait!

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    could you possible let me know how you have got on so far with vpscolo?

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    Some net problems.. but is ok and i'm almost satisfied

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    good luck with them, from reviews here i'm sure you'll be happy with them

    I'm with dinix and am over the moon, jsut wanted to say that before someone mentioned them having 2x2.4 xeons, last time i looked the server i'm on had 4 xeon processors.

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    Originally posted by simon70
    Some net problems.. but is ok and i'm almost satisfied
    if you are having any network problems, tell Rus and the crew you would like to change DCs, he has VPS at mutiple DCs, I am at Peer1, I know there is liquidweb, and I think one out of NJ.

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    Iíve been with JVDS for about a year now with no regrets. The service has always been good and Rus has always been friendly and helpful.

    Thats my 2 cents.

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    Originally posted by aqi32
    last time i looked the server i'm on had 4 xeon processors.
    I heard 2 Xeon processors with Hyper Threading would show up as 4. You might want to search around the forums and find out for sure.

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    Originally posted by hunter_az
    I heard 2 Xeon processors with Hyper Threading would show up as 4. You might want to search around the forums and find out for sure.
    Correct.

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    Originally posted by simon70
    Thanks Paul that was a correct observation.
    I'm investigating this important feature with vpscolo.

    Simon
    You can't go wrong with Dinix. When it comes to support, you'll find very few providers to match their level of customer care.

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    i recomend powervps, i have plan with we and im very satisfect, powervps is the best price and vps performance in hosting market, the unique provider ofering virtuoso vps with 10 gbs 256 mb memory, free backups, clientexec and fantastico for $44 bucks,

    see the benchmarks results and the prices...
    Last edited by boxhosts; 10-07-2004 at 05:19 PM.

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    I recomend vpscolo (jvds)
    I'm with them almost more then year

    great support (rus,jim,robin and others )

    A++++

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    Well I haven't hosted with either of these companies but what I can say is this: more than 24 hours ago I sent a short list of some very simple pre-sales questions to both vpscolo and dinix. VPScolo has long since responded however Ive heard nothing from Dinix.
    I know that this in itself is not much to go by but if this is any indication of Dinix's level of customer service then its very sad. Im not impressed. This has me thinking....if I were to sign up with Dinix would every support request take in excess of 24 hours to be answered? That would be unacceptable.

    I think Im going to take my chances with VPScolo.
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    Keep in mind that sales and support are likely two separate entities with some companies. To be fair, what you sent was a sales request, and many companies don't have their sales staff in on the weekend. If you had sent a support request to Dinix I doubt they would take 24 hrs from what I've heard of their support. Having said that I do think you will be most happy with VPSColo as Rus and co there are simply wonderful to work with. GL!

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    Originally posted by boxhosts
    i recomend powervps, i have plan with we and im very satisfect, powervps is the best price and vps performance in hosting market, the unique provider ofering virtuoso vps with 10 gbs 256 mb memory, free backups, clientexec and fantastico for $44 bucks,

    see the benchmarks results and the prices...
    i seconed that.

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    Poor performance under VPSColo

    I've had VPS Colo for a few months and believe it is unable to support a production level account.

    I've had major issues with server performance. For example, at the shell prompt, trying to 'ls' a directory would take more than 30 seconds. Obviously, web access has been very slow.

    I've contacted support, and the answer I get back is 'We are aware of the problem'. So, my server has been unusable for hours, I just let you know, and now you are 'aware of the problem'? Pushing the issue further, I got 'we are going to roll out a set of patches in a few months to hope to fix the problem'. A few months?

    This type of support has caused me to have to set up a suite of server monitoring tools, including web response time daemons. I've found that typically on the 'hour' it takes 10 seconds or more to return a static html web page, even though my VPS is otherwise idle at that moment. I believe this is due to cron jobs on other VPS's hogging the host disk.

    At least in my case, I believe VPSColo has oversold their boxes. My VPS is very under utilized, but I'm suffering from contention with the host resources from the other VPS's. Unfortunately the company doesn't seem to proactively monitor the host server's load, but rather is reactive, looking into the issue when you report it.

    Of course, your experience my vary.

    Does anyone know if Virtuozzo has better resource management than UML?

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    I have been on both and honestly did not notice a difference.

    I think the most important thing to consider with a VPS is the memory allocation. Make sure you get as much RAM as you can

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