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    Womens Equal Rights?

    Hello Everyone,
    Just wanted to get peoples opinions on the women's equal rights and how the system of the US is extremely biased towards them. I am a woman myself and do not understand how it is that the system can allow women to commit the same crimes that a male is able to do, and then get the same sentence and only have to serve an extremely short time and thereafter get parole. How is it equal rights if women get treated better than men do with the justice system? Is it not against the principals for the concept of equal rights? There are women out there that will commit murder and do they ever get the same punishment that a male would? No I think not! And what is up with these women with the feminist groups always sticking up for them no matter what crime they have committed. Oh feel so sorry for the woman...for what? Does a male not have the same feelings that a woman would have? Do they not work as hard or even harder at times than a woman would? I just don't understand and think that the system is so messed up by choosing to allow women to have the same rights as males in all aspects except for when it comes to the justice system or any form of punishment. Instead they pamper them and allow them to do whatever they would like and possibly not even serve the sentence that was given or even get jail or prison at all. Personally I think the whole women's equal rights is a big joke and that the US government should be just as hard on women as they are on men!

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    If what you are saying is true then i think they should be as hard on men as they are on women.

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    Actually, you have that backwards, in the courts, judgements are usually more harsh towards women, rather than men.

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    Really? Since when? I have seen many women get off extremely easy when the men have to serve the whole term or at least most of it. Any Examples?
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    Interesting argument. Care to point us to some examples regarding the unequal justice system. I am in Canada and here I can see the opposite. I am a man and I got promoted in a job I was working a few years ago ahead of my female coworkers, who had more experience and showed better perfomance then I did. Sefish as I am I did nothing about it, but that does not change the fact. I know for a quite a few other examples where male is considered for promotions to managarial position ahead of female for no other reason but their sex. In Canada women are still paid less for the same positions and work than men. Now, that is not fair. Regarding justice system, last year there was a case going on here where guy got by with weekend jail for killing his wife. He was drunk and not in control of his actions and yadda, yadda, ..... if you want to kill your wife just get drunk and you will be fine. That does not sound like justice to me eather.

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    Take a look at this:
    http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/racial.htm

    Ofcourse this is just for Texas. The difference is incredible.
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    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cp.htm

    "At yearend 2002, 37 States and the Federal prison system held 3,557 prisoners under sentence of death, 20 fewer than at yearend 2001. All had committed murder. "

    "Fifty-one women were under a sentence of death."
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    I saw statistics somewhere that women commit less than 13 percent of violent crimes in the United States. Maybe googlig for that will give you better picture.

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    Homicide Type by Gender, 1976-2000
    Offenders
    Male Female
    All homicides 87.9% 12.1%

    Compare that to the current DeathRow statistics posted above:
    3,557 prisoners = 3,506 males and 51 females
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    Let me get this straight..

    Women bitch and complain because there are no equal rights...

    The U.S. Finally gives them equal rights and now they bitch and complain because we treat them better than men?

    Just goes to show you that we, men, can never pelase women!

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    I am probably not speaking for the majority of women out there. They would want me to sit down and shut up. LOL!
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    Originally posted by Sami228
    Homicide Type by Gender, 1976-2000
    Offenders
    Male Female
    All homicides 87.9% 12.1%

    Compare that to the current DeathRow statistics posted above:
    3,557 prisoners = 3,506 males and 51 females
    Yup that makes sense, as large majority of people get on death row by commiting more then 1 crime, so chances of woman commiting 2 violent crimes is exponencialy smaller then chance of commiting single crime, which comes up to be 1.21% of violent crimes are commited by woman with more than 1 violent crime. So that that comes to 3557 * 0.021 = 43 women on deathrow.

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    Keep in mind that most women do not go onto Death Row they may instead get life in prison even though they should get the death penalty like most men would. Such as Andrea Yates!
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    Fewer women commit crimes than men.

    Thus fewer women in the justice system

    Thus the argument "Less women get harsh sentances" isnt a fact of sexism, but a fact of numbers.


    When a woman commits the exact same crime as a man, the woman will often get a harsher sentance, because it is more expected (or accepted) that a man would commit that crime. Standards are higher for women, especially in the working world, just ask any woman who was more than qualified for a promotion, and a lesser qualified man got it instead. These high standards are also transferred over into the legal system, and create harsher sentances for like crimes, especially white collar crimes, and crimes dealing with children (since women should be the nurturers in the eyes of society).

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    This is not the case at all. In fact if a man would have committed the same crime that Andrea Yates did he would have gotten the death penalty whereas Andrea Yates a woman did not. Instead she was sentenced to life in prison and possibly 40 years of parole. I have also known quite a few women that have committed federal crimes that did not get punished at all. As well as one woman that went in front of the same judge numerous times for drug crimes and only served a 1 year sentence when she was originally sentenced to 10 years. Whereas a man would have served his time.
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    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/...?from=storyrhs

    Ouch! Not much for a sentence...just because she showed remorse!

    But of course why shouldn't she show remorse...wouldn't you if your spouse had no genitalia
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    Originally posted by Sami228
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    Ouch! Not much for a sentence...just because she showed remorse! ...
    .... and was seven months' pregnant.

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    Why should that make a difference though? Its a matter of taking full responsibility for the actions you take.
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    That incident in texas was crazy, with the woman running over the husband a few times "I didn't know", she shoulda been executed.
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