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04-23-2004, 09:34 PM #1Junior Guru
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how much $$ would you generally expect to make per server?
hypothetically speaking, let's say you have an 80GB HD. if you loosely charge approx. $5 per 500MB, that's about 160 accounts at $5 = $800. does that sound about right, or would that be shortchanging yourself?
again, those are loose figures.
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04-23-2004, 09:57 PM #2Web Developer
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You can't section out servers based on how much space they have. Some sites will take more server resources than others, and your server may not be able to support that many clients.
Hence, 160 accounts on a box may keep your load a 3, so you'll need to charge enough to be able to keep your load below 1.
A bad explanation, but I think it's enough to get your mind going.0
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04-23-2004, 10:16 PM #3THE Web Hosting Master
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I honestly think $400 per box is enough, but I'd prefer to base it on load rather than how much $$ each box is bringing in.
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04-23-2004, 10:31 PM #4Web Hosting Guru
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for $60 server, i've to get $200
for $200 server, i've to get $5500
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04-23-2004, 10:34 PM #5Superhero
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Originally posted by fuse1982
for $60 server, i've to get $200
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04-23-2004, 10:34 PM #6Aspiring Evangelist
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Originally posted by DanX
You can't section out servers based on how much space they have. Some sites will take more server resources than others, and your server may not be able to support that many clients.
Hence, 160 accounts on a box may keep your load a 3, so you'll need to charge enough to be able to keep your load below 1.
A bad explanation, but I think it's enough to get your mind going.
I noticed somewhere else people were referring to load levels by numbers....IE 3 and 1.
How are these defined and what are you using to define these numbers?0
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04-23-2004, 10:37 PM #7Superhero
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Typing "uptime" via shell will display system/user loads. The lower the number, the better it is.
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04-23-2004, 10:37 PM #8Aspiring Evangelist
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Originally posted by Amdac
Typing "uptime" via shell will display system/user loads. The lower the number, the better it is.0
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04-23-2004, 10:39 PM #9Superhero
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Windows always has high resource loads, no need for a command to tell you that
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04-23-2004, 10:56 PM #10Junior Guru Wannabe
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It does certainly depend on the type of server you are running, the type of clients you have, etc.
However, we usually try to net at least $1,500 per server. We can usually get around 200-250 domains on our servers without the loads getting out of control or space being used up. Again, this depends on the type of sites you host. A few heavily used message forums could tie a server up really quick.
In regards to space being used, most hosting companies offer 500mb or more per account, but use the numbers game to get more customers on a server. They figure the majority of people will use less than 100-50mb on their sites...with an 80 Gig hard drive, that leaves you pleny of space....then it just comes down to the load of the server itself.
We host a site that is a message forum for turtles and the guy gets millions of hits each month....That one was very taxing on one of our smaller servers (1.2GHZ) before we moved him to a newer server.
I personally feel that you should try to balance your load with the number of users as much as possible, but get the most you can out of the server. Use at least two hard drives so you have one for backup.
It makes no sense to only make $200-500 off of each server if you have to manage a ton of servers to make good money. The more servers you have, the more support people you have to have to manage/upgrade/keep software current, etc....that's of course unless you don't want to offer that great of service.
These are just my opinions though and of course are different for everyone.0
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04-23-2004, 10:59 PM #11Superhero
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Originally posted by noimad1
It makes no sense to only make $200-500 off of each server if you have to manage a ton of servers to make good money. The more servers you have, the more support people you have to have to manage/upgrade/keep software current, etc....that's of course unless you don't want to offer that great of service.Webmaster Forum • webmastertalk.net • Webmaster Community Forum
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04-23-2004, 11:57 PM #12Web Hosting Master
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We aim for around $4,000 net per shared server per month.
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04-24-2004, 12:10 AM #13Build It Better!
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I'm green with envy John...
We are about $2300 net per server including additional revenue from graphics, site maintenance, site designs and domain registrations ....0
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04-24-2004, 12:48 AM #14Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by JohnCrowley
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04-24-2004, 01:17 AM #15Web Hosting Master
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We aim for around $4,000 net per shared server per month.
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Thats nice, mind telling me how you do that
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04-24-2004, 01:30 AM #16Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Yaser
We aim for around $4,000 net per shared server per month.
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04-24-2004, 01:52 AM #17Web Hosting Master
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04-24-2004, 01:55 AM #18Aspiring Evangelist
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I keep my sites per server ratio low to ensure good speed and performance. I aim for an average of $1200 per shared server and $400 per Reseller server. Reseller income is less as there is more domains allocated per account than there is with Shared hosting.
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04-24-2004, 02:39 AM #19Retired Moderator
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$15/mo X 250accounts = $3750/server
thats how you make $4K/mo/serverBashar Al-Abdulhadi - KuwaitNET Internet Services Serving customers since 1997
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04-24-2004, 07:01 AM #20Web Hosting Master
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It depends on the type of clients as they all take up different amounts of server resources.
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04-24-2004, 09:01 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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Sorry, went to bed.
Sure, here are all the secrets...
Goal is around 150 accounts per server (+/- 25). Specs are usually P4 2.x GHz, 1 GB RAM, SCSI drives, RH 6,7,... Linux servers.
Our lowest priced account is $20 per month, average price paid per shared account is around $40-$45 per month. So, I guess our average per server is close to $6,000 gross. Take out server expenses ($500ish per server - no budget DC), merchant account fees, etc... and it drops the net down to around $4-4.5k per server.
Our market is the small to medium sized business that is serious about ecommerce and their website. With a tight marketing plan and strategic partnerhships, combined with word of mouth advertising because of our service, we can charge the prices we do and still gain market share each month.
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04-24-2004, 10:02 AM #22Web Hosting Master
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Simply beautiful numbers there John.
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04-24-2004, 01:10 PM #23Web Hosting Master
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I buy dual xeons with 2 GB of RAM and shoot for about 2K profit per box. That comes to about 250 accounts/machine.
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04-24-2004, 06:56 PM #24Retired Moderator
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John based in states?
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04-24-2004, 06:59 PM #25Superhero
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Originally posted by Bashar
John based in states?
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