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    Question Are You A Religious Person?

    Hi,

    I was just wondering how many of you are religious? If yes, then was this quality transferred to you by your family when you were being brought up or you just became one at a later stage of your life due to the influence of another religious person or some mind blowing event?

    If not, then again is this because you came from a non-religious type family who never focued on this aspect or was it you just realised at a later stage of your life that there is no such thing as God and following the teachings of a book is plain stupid?

    Why is religion important to you? and if not then why is it not important to you?

    Thanks!

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    Here is my idea on religion:

    I'm not a very religious person. I belong to no church and probably never will (the only church I like is in Aimes, IA). So I guess you can say I'm Agnostic.

    I believe if I live a morally good life and help others I will go to heaven if there is one. I do pray every now and then (especially when I'm in trouble).

    I guess the way I look at it is:

    If there isn't a god then oh well, if there is I'm gonna try not to piss him/her off.

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    I am alot closer to god today than i used to be,i guess mainly cause of things in my life has brought me closer to him..........I feel happier knowing god is there!!!!!!!!!!

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    Not at all (as you can see by custom title lol)

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    No, I'm a practicing atheist :P

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    Well, I dont pray out loud, I more or less do it in my head. I usually get things my way when I ask. So, let's look at the possibilities of why that is.

    1) I am God - Not.
    2) I have an invisible Genie as a Guardian Angel.
    3) I have magical or psychic powers.
    4) There is a God, and he is answering prayers.

    Which one would YOU believe??

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    Originally posted by The Dude_
    I am alot closer to god today than i used to be,i guess mainly cause of things in my life has brought me closer to him..........I feel happier knowing god is there!!!!!!!!!!

    The Dude

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    I am not religious...But I DO beleive in God and he is apart of my life. I don't go to church hardly at all, though. It seems fake to me, at least the people do...

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    Originally posted by Webdude
    Well, I dont pray out loud, I more or less do it in my head. I usually get things my way when I ask. So, let's look at the possibilities of why that is.

    1) I am God - Not.
    2) I have an invisible Genie as a Guardian Angel.
    3) I have magical or psychic powers.
    4) There is a God, and he is answering prayers.

    Which one would YOU believe??
    If this is meant to imply that, obviously, #4 is the only possible realistic answer, one could only conclude that god is partial to those living in Western countries.

    I wonder how many of the tens of millions of people, living in third world countries, that die of malnutrition each year pray and simply ask 'God' for at least enough food to be able to live to see the next day?

    God consistently says no to citizens of third world countries, and thus lets millions die.

    However, because food isn't an issue for us, we can pray, in our heads, about meaningless superficial things (believe me Webdude, compared to never having enough food for you or your family to live on, that whatever you pray for is superficial) and get our every want and desire granted.

    Funny how God mainly answers the prayers of those in Western countries.

    One meagre example, but asking for something in your head and getting your own way reeks of gratuitous self importance.

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    I'm agnostic. I don't want to say atheist, because I don't want to lose to go to heaven because I don't believe in it
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    Originally posted by Toefur
    I wonder how many of the tens of millions of people, living in third world countries, that die of malnutrition each year pray and simply ask 'God' for at least enough food to be able to live to see the next day?
    I dont consistently make more children that I know I cant take care of and feed, and will most likely painfully die under my care. I wont go into that discussion again. There wouldnt be 10's of millions if they didnt keep having kids they cant feed when they cant even feed themselves.

    ...and I dont know how food came into it. I dont pray for food. I pray that I can always provide a good life for my family, that I dont get killed on the highway by some stupid drunk or cellphone idiot, and that my kids behave so I dont have to punish them, and that any arguements with my wife quickly dissolve.....among many other things. I believe that to get help, you must first help yourself.

    I am not a religious nut. People come to my door that seems to me they think they can get in the passenger seat of their car and let God do the driving. That's not how it works. Tell me why those people are starving while there is so much food in the nearby forests they live close to? Funny how with all the food being sent over, the loads are increasing. Why? Because why should you go out and hunt your food when the good ol Americans are bringing food to you?

    I do however, believe we should teach them birth control, and how to take care of themselves. Not simply feed them as we currently do. As such a wealthy nation, it's our responsibility to help them, but not completely take them under our wing 100%.
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    Are You A Religious Person?
    No. Not really...

    Then again, my take on religion is... If youre easily offended or a zealot, skip below this post of mine...

    Religion should be your own independent "bond" with your god or gods, or whoever or whatever it may be. Not restricted by someone elses ideology.

    Not to get involved in another Jihad that these threads usually resort to... I'm leaving this thread now.
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    No. Atheist. Simple as that.

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    Not a religous person by nature.

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    I'm not 'religious' so to speak, but I do believe in God. I also believe that most the bible is ******** and that Jesus was a con-man.

    I have some 'different' views compared to other believers. I don't go to church, God said there was to be 1 church, that's the world.

    EDIT: I had a rough life, so believing in God is just something you do.
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    Not religious, I believe in science.
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    Not religious, but indeed spiritual.

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    Originally posted by Philipf
    Not religious, I believe in science.
    I believe in science, and science believes in God.

    Now there's a neverending discussion right there. No, I'm not suggesting we head down that path. It's just an expression I heard a while back and your post reminded me of it.

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    I was taken to church as a child, but as I grew up had my own feelings about it all and am now fairly certain there is no such thing as "God".
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    Something must be there, we arent here without a reason...living in a stupid round shaped rock we call earth that is just a tiny little part of the trillions of other rocks we call universe...there has to be something we yet do not know about..

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    If you think about what you just said, then you will realise that God = Energy, and energy doesn't give a flying f**k what we do.
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    I was brought up Jewish. I spent 10+ years in Jewish school, learned so much about the bible, etc. For all the good that did me, I'm agnostic. Even moreso than when I started. I mean, reading all the BS in the bibles (Old Testament, New Testament, Quran), just turns you off to the whole god thing. I consider myself an Agnostic by divine belief, Jewish by community.
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    Something must be there, we arent here without a reason...living in a stupid round shaped rock we call earth that is just a tiny little part of the trillions of other rocks we call universe...there has to be something we yet do not know about..
    That is what I call agnostic thinking. We know enough about science to know that we know almost nothing about this reality we live in.
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    Science is to a scientist, as the Bible is to a Christian.

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    Greetings:

    I am not a religious person; I have no religion.

    I strongly believe there is a difference between “faith” and “religion.”

    In terms of my faith, I am a follower of Christ Jesus the Son of the Living and Most High God.

    When I look back over the past (almost) 41 years, I know that God saved me a number of times from various forms of death.

    However, I did not recognize and accept Jesus as my Lord, Savior, Sovereign King until May 8, 1990.

    While I was raised Roman Catholic, there was no substance (that could have been to various issues including me – please note this is not a negative against Catholicism as I have known many Catholic Christians over the years).

    In my latter teenage years, I got into witchcraft; and then atheism (for years).

    My testimony is too large to post (that’s not stated out of pride or arrogance; just that there is a lot of history). Those interested can PM me with their email address (it is too large for a PM).

    God is important to me as He is my Deliverer, my Savior, my Healer, my Comforter, my everything. He is the source of all things; and I am but a steward of all things in my possession ("my" said loosely because they are His).

    I believe faith must be a living part of you; and that you don’t take it off or put it aside when things get uncomfortable – including dying for one’s faith.

    To be clear on the dying for one’s faith part, I don’t mean any form of terrorist act, but the willingness to stand firm in face of death (i.e. if some one points a gun at my head and tells me to deny Christ Jesus, it would be my hope I would pray out loud and praise Jesus even though the bullet may be released from the chamber before I could say much).

    In ending, faith matters to me. It helps define my purpose in life.

    Thank you.

    P.S. Science and faith are not opposites.

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    I strongly believe there is a difference between “faith” and “religion.”
    Yes. Faith is believing in something without any facts or needing facts while Religion is an institution of rules you follow where the leader is an all powerful god (or gods depending on religion). Since religion is based on the faith of scriptures it makes it almost impossible to argue religion as it needs no facts and you need facts to argue.
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    Born and raised Catholic, went to church once a month growing up. Now, I haven't been to church in years, so I would say im not a religious person.
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    I'm definitely agnostic these days, I used to think I was Athiest for a while until some people started labeling it a religion too!

    I am on the fence so to speak, but I tend to lean towards no God in the sense most people think of it. I do not believe there is some invisible being watching over everyone, if there is he is strangely absent from our reality.

    However, in another sense, the universe itself is our creator and we are mearly the universe standing up and looking at itself. Early ancestors who worshipped the sun were also quite correct, without the sun we would not be here, we are created from the same materials which burn there now. But, let's be real and realize the sun doesn't care if we worship it, nor does the universe.

    When we peer out into the cosmos we see more stars than there are grains of sand on all the beaches on this little blue rock we call home, does this not signify quite clearly that we aren't really special it seems? Does not the dinosaurs ruling the planet for 165 MILLION years say something? We're hardly 4 million years old ourselves and have only been advanced enough to keep records of ourselves for about 6,000 years, heck we're having trouble finding out stuff about ourselves that only happened 10,000 years ago, a blink of an eye compared to the age of the planet we inhabit.

    Could the universe be a creation? Certainly, I'm open to that, I just don't think that creator pays much attention to every little being that has evolved within his creation. We're more likely an evolved species within this universe that may or may not have been created, just like all previous evolved species on our blue rock and likely countless other life bearing worlds throughout the cosmos.

    Another possibility to explain many Biblical events is also alien intervention, let's face it, there are two possibilities with interstellar travel, it's either possible or it isn't. If it is possible then some alien species has likely already been here, and to our ancestors their advanced technology would have been godlike.

    So many questions out there that I don't think we'll ever answer.
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    Originally posted by Dynanet
    Another possibility to explain many Biblical events is also alien intervention, let's face it, there are two possibilities with interstellar travel, it's either possible or it isn't. If it is possible then some alien species has likely already been here, and to our ancestors their advanced technology would have been godlike.
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    Originally posted by Xshare
    Been watching Stargate (SG1)?
    Hehe, I do enjoy that show ...

    The theories I was presenting though aren't based on that, more on the ancient Greek accounts of "wars in the sky" and stuff, well before we could fly and it could have just been real bad storms, actual Gods battling it out or aliens posing as actual Gods battling it out

    The History Channel has a show on Alien Evidence and the Bible, it was quite interesting. It presents a pretty plausible story and there are missing links in our history we've yet to explain.

    Our solar system is 5 billion years old or so in a universe that is 12-15 billion years old as far as we know at this time, that leaves a long time for other life to have evolved and possibily to have figured out how to do interstellar travel, have long lifespans and how to outlive their home star. It's not like there aren't lots of clues of flying things in ancient artwork either, stuff like that really has to make you wonder.
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    We're more likely an evolved species within this universe that may or may not have been created, just like all previous evolved species on our blue rock and likely countless other life bearing worlds throughout the cosmos.


    Interesting theory...it could be possible you know

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    Nah i'm not religious. Actually i haven't been to church in yrs.

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    Born, and raised as a Roman Catholic, and always will be of the Roman Catholic faith.


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    I very much believe in God and Jesus and I always have, was raised to believe, never forced to believe, never forced to church, love going anyway. The only book I read anymore outside of manuals is the bible because it is the only book I enjoy anymore.

    I believe in Heaven and hell and I pray daily for those that don't believe to maybe someday start believing for what ever reason.

    I dont hate those that are different I just pray for them.
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    Originally posted by Dynanet
    The History Channel has a show on Alien Evidence and the Bible, it was quite interesting. It presents a pretty plausible story and there are missing links in our history we've yet to explain.
    Now that would be a fascinating show to watch. Is it a regular series, or was it just a one off show?
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    Originally posted by Dynanet
    . . . Our solar system is 5 billion years old or so in a universe that is 12-15 billion years old as far as we know at this time . . .
    Yeah, that's "as_best_we_can_know_now", from a scientific perspective. In the coming centuries they'll narrow it down to a more precise understanding.

    Nowhere in the bible does it indicate the age of the universe or planet earth, for that matter. For the truly open minded, there's interesting studies in the "Pre-Adamite world" that existed before Adam was created, centered around "The Gap therory" in the beginning of Gen 1 - 2 etc. That also ties in with the study of Lucifer (Satan) before that entity's fall. It's a complex study and not for the close minded, but beats the pants off Stargate, as much as I enjoy that show.

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    There is a god, but he didn't create us. He only helps us make the transition into our next life, after death. Our soles are created immediatly when....well, you know how that happens

    Our bodies are simply "containers". Although most "containers" change through evolution, some "containers" are altered. Our human bodies have been altered for centuries by an alien race known as the "greys". These "greys" are clones, who are seeking to find a future "container" that will be able to accomodate them, and will be far more advanced then their current "container". These "greys" however are working for another race known as the "reptilians". I won't get into that right now though...Its a long story

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    Originally posted by RMF
    There is a god, but he didn't create us. He only helps us make the transition into our next life, after death. Our soles are created immediatly when....well, you know how that happens

    Our bodies are simply "containers". Although most "containers" change through evolution, some "containers" are altered. Our human bodies have been altered for centuries by an alien race known as the "greys". These "greys" are clones, who are seeking to find a future "container" that will be able to accomodate them, and will be far more advanced then their current "container". These "greys" however are working for another race known as the "reptilians". I won't get into that right now though...Its a long story
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    I never have believed in religions and probably never will. I think the whole concept of it is just plain old silly.. And until people stop fighting, and killing each other over invisible men in the sky, it will always be silly..
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