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    Simply: Who is the best bandwidth provider?

    I'm not sure if this thread is redundant, but I can't say that I have seen a thread discussing this subject where a definite answer/consensus has been reached.

    http://www.internetpulse.net cannot be used to determin the answer for this, because that is just "at the moment" information and cannot judge a number of things which we won't get into.

    Anyway, who is really the best bandwidth provider?

    I don't want the most affordable bandwidth, I want to know--money aside--who offers the best bandwidth?

    Sprint? CW? MCI (uunet/worldcom)?

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    None

    There is no 'best', it depends on what your needs are and what geographical locations you want to target.

    However, some carriers can be considered better than others.

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    check out the internap thread
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    AOL Time Warner (Dialup).. better than the best, and harder than the rest

    Don't let words like 100mbit and OC-3/12 fool you, they're only mbit / gbit.. this is 56 Kbps, which is MUCH faster than 100mbit (1 kbps = 100mbit). This means you'd need a 560 mbit line to match a 56kbps line!
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    Re: None

    Originally posted by Fibersnet
    There is no 'best', it depends on what your needs are and what geographical locations you want to target.

    However, some carriers can be considered better than others.
    Yeah, I've heard (and said) all of this sort of crap.

    There is a best, who is it?


    For USA traffic, for streaming video files, for running game servers... things which require the connection to be always performing at its fullest potential. Obviously, everyone is going to have their hiccups, but who has the least?


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    Originally posted by mg-
    AOL Time Warner.. better than the best, and harder than the rest
    I've noticed a few popular sites use TW Telecom (Time Warner). MSN does, AOL does (I'm sure), even kernel.org uses them I believe.

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    Originally posted by kerplunk
    I've noticed a few popular sites use TW Telecom (Time Warner). MSN does, AOL does (I'm sure), even kernel.org uses them I believe.
    TWTC is probably just peered with MSN's backbone.
    AOL operates their own transitless backbone, called ATDN, and they most certainly do not buy transit or peering from TWTC. It's most likely the other way around, though TWTC may have settlement-free peering with ATDN.
    Perhaps you should not post expertly on such matters, as you're "surely" wrong in this instance.
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    Here are the top ten networks as defined by number of peers...
    1 UUNET Technologies, Inc. -- 2,378 Peers
    2 Sprint -- 1,792 Peers
    3 AT&T WorldNet Services -- 1,724 Peers
    4 Level 3 Communications, LLC -- 1,088 Peers
    5 Qwest -- 1,057 Peers
    6 Global Crossing -- 640 Peers
    7 Verio, Inc. -- 625 Peers
    8 Abovenet Communications, Inc -- 557 Peers
    9 Globix Corporation -- 516 Peers
    10 SBC Internet Services - Southwest -- 479 Peers
    Here is a Knodes Index of top ten networks
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    The Knodes Index is the best measurement of a network s connectivity to the Internet. The Knodes Index is based on a variety of statistics, such as relative size, IP address control and peering arrangements. The index is calculated to indicate the average number of networks, or hops that must be traversed between any IP address on a given network to any other IP address on the Internet.

    1 Level 3 Communications, LLC -- 1.79 Hops
    2 Sprint -- 1.79 Hops
    3 Swisscom Enterprise Solutions Ltd -- 1.80 Hops
    4 Abovenet Communications, Inc -- 1.81 Hops
    5 Globix Corporation -- 1.81 Hops
    6 AT&T WorldNet Services -- 1.84 Hops
    7 Global Crossing -- 1.84 Hops
    8 Verio, Inc. -- 1.84 Hops
    9 Qwest -- 1.86 Hops
    10 UUNET Technologies, Inc. -- 1.86 Hops
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    Thank you, hosting&colo, for that information.

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    Internap is as good as you will get.

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    You can get all of that from http://www.fixedorbit.org , incase you were curious

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    Originally posted by hosting&colo
    Here are the top ten networks as defined by number of peers...


    Here is a Knodes Index of top ten networks

    -R
    The first list looks like a run down of thePlanets carriers

    I guess they know what to look for

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    The question should really be: what do you want to do with that BW? For the US, for the world? For gamers? CDN?

    There is no one carrier who is the best to all destinations every time - and there are ways to get around that, of course, to find the fastest route and best destination every time.

    But you probably don't want to hear any of that stuff.....

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    Thank you to everyone who replied. I have found the answer.

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    kerplunk,

    Mind sharing the answer?

    Thank you,
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    It really depends upon your market and who you are trying to target.

    Answers will vary. I mean your question is rather open ended.

    If you have a specific audience in mind meaning US, Europe, Asia, etc., etc...

    May I suggest asking this question on the NANOG.org mailing list - that is where network engineers with "True" knowledge will be able to tell you some good answers for what you seek...

    IMHO that is......
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    May I suggest asking this question on the NANOG.org mailing list - that is where network engineers with "True" knowledge will be able to tell you some good answers for what you seek...
    LOL.... Believe it or not, some of us on this board are also Cisco certified, as well as many others, and have plenty of network knowledge and experience. Its a shame you have to make comments like that.

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    LOL.... Believe it or not, some of us on this board are also Cisco certified, as well as many others, and have plenty of network knowledge and experience. Its a shame you have to make comments like that.


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    Just because a domain was registered on a particular date does not reflect my level of experience or the close to 20 years I've spent in the networking industry, nor does it reflect the amount of time I have been Hosting. Its just a Domain Name, geez.

    Yeah... and I am getting old. Can't get around that. 40 is right around the corner.

    I was simply saying that its not nice to talk down to people like that. Sorry, it just came across very derogatory.

    Do you feel better now after trying to flame me? It just goes to show the level of maturity and professionalism you possess. Rather than drop to your level, I would prefer to stay professional and just say that I wish you the best of luck in all of your future endeavors.

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    I concur. Completely un-called for. Posting a whois record is by no means indicative of someone’s life experience. By your standards, you should have no problem producing a whois record with your domain name that was registered in 1984....right?

    I can't speak for more than 3 or 4 dozen NANOG members, but the ones I have met and learned from are clueful and insightful people. However, they possess one characteristic it seems that you do not; They're humble. Until you've mastered this, perhaps you should consider ceasing your antagonistic self-righteous comments and replace it with a real valid display of clue and not just bringing up dirt on someones domain name.

    And yes, let me save you the trouble. I'll spare the moderators my personal domain name, but here goes:


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    Originally posted by Cisco_CCIE
    May I suggest asking this question on the NANOG.org mailing list - that is where network engineers with "True" knowledge will be able to tell you some good answers for what you seek...
    this is not an operational question and off-topic on nanog. if anything, it would be appropriate for isp-bandwidth.

    it is quite sad that you consider a cert to be the defining feature of yourself as an individual. s/sad/pathetic. troll on.

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