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    [offer]: make exim use multiple interfaces/ips for outgoing emails

    I have a patch that allows exim to send mail using all of the interfaces/ips defined on a server. This can be extremely useful for someone that wants do traffic balance, or sends a high number of emails and is banned by some isps, Read more at http://simscripts.com/exim_multiple_...ces_patch.html

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    Sounds like a tool for spammers to me. Please elaborate on the legitimate uses for this.

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    Originally posted by sightz
    Sounds like a tool for spammers to me. Please elaborate on the legitimate uses for this.
    It is not at all a tool for spammers, spammers usually use anonymous proxy servers for sending large amounts of emails. This tool is for legal email ads ( optin lists ) this kind of mailers have a few ip's on set up on their server and they sometimes get blocked , or if you have a mail server that has multiple routes and you would like to balance outgoing traffic on all routes.

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    Originally posted by simscripts
    It is not at all a tool for spammers, spammers usually use anonymous proxy servers for sending large amounts of emails. This tool is for legal email ads ( optin lists ) this kind of mailers have a few ip's on set up on their server and they sometimes get blocked , or if you have a mail server that has multiple routes and you would like to balance outgoing traffic on all routes.
    If the email is being reported as spam, chances are it is spam.

    As for servers with multiple routes, providers on these types of setups usually use BGP routing so the changes in routes are completely transparent.

    Any legit users for this patch at all?

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    Originally posted by LifelessHost
    If the email is being reported as spam, chances are it is spam.
    There are alot of optin lists that get RBLed like spam does, and optin is legit. I created this patch for a client of mine that had this problem.

    As for servers with multiple routes, providers on these types of setups usually use BGP routing so the changes in routes are completely transparent.
    You must be kidding . BGP?
    I'm talking about small businesses here, hardware that costs few hundred dollars not thousands that are needed for routers to implement BGP. I was thinking at something like, a server that has 2-3 network interfaces and each NIC has it's own route ( maybe different ISP ) and you would like that your mail traffic is divided to all the interfaces.
    It seems stuppid to me that a MTA as heavily used as Exim cannot use all interfaces / ip's on a server to send mail, seems like the other ip's are useless.

    Any legit users for this patch at all?
    Yes i had a few hosting companies that had clients with large optin lists that were interested in this patch so i thought others may be interested.

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    Originally posted by simscripts
    ... and optin is legit.
    I receive about 100 messages a week selling me Viagara, pirated software and porn that say I "opted in" to receive their crap.

    Opt-in is a joke and is absolutely meaningless in today's world.

    Although I may have opted-in with some great website back in 1997, I did NOT opt-in to the thousands of spammers they sold their list to when the dot-com bubble burst.

    I would never host a customer who sends "opt-in" mailings and actually use the term "you opted-in to receive..." in my spam filters.

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    Originally posted by sightz
    I receive about 100 messages a week selling me Viagara, pirated software and porn that say I "opted in" to receive their crap.

    Opt-in is a joke and is absolutely meaningless in today's world.

    Although I may have opted-in with some great website back in 1997, I did NOT opt-in to the thousands of spammers they sold their list to when the dot-com bubble burst.

    I would never host a customer who sends "opt-in" mailings and actually use the term "you opted-in to receive..." in my spam filters.
    OK i'm not saying that all opt ins are legit, but you can't say all of them are ilegit.
    What do you suggest I should drop this patch just because there may be someone that could use it for spam. As i allready sayd before I don't think spammers would be interested in this as they have other ( better ) methods.

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    No, I am saying that you are in the same class as a gun manufacturer - you simply make a tool people want. It's not your fault if it is used to kill cops instead of bunny rabbits.

    If those tools were never released into the wild there would be far less dead cops and way more bunny rabbits.

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    Originally posted by sightz
    No, I am saying that you are in the same class as a gun manufacturer - you simply make a tool people want. It's not your fault if it is used to kill cops instead of bunny rabbits.

    If those tools were never released into the wild there would be far less dead cops and way more bunny rabbits.
    That's really not a nice compatision
    And I don't think it's the same thing. Anyway this discussion is useless. I knew that there will be people like you that will try to argue about this.

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