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05-03-2004, 02:33 PM #26Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by loz
Ok, so give us the urls to your site etc, so we can check what you are hosting at Glexicon
You're not getting closer to the truth... you've wandered from the beaten path and have fallen off a cliff. That's why I refuse to keep replying to you, because you're so far out there, there's no way I can steer you in the right direction. I'm telling the truth and you keep throwing wild theories out there and overanalyzing everything said by anyone.
Derick is a customer, and has been for quite some time. Like I said, he'll show you his site if he wants to.
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05-03-2004, 02:35 PM #27Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by torrents
loz, that isn't the real issue. There were some sites hosted by Glexicon as it has been on and off for awhile. The real issue is not paying your Eryxma hosting bill, moving the servers, and claiming it's a new company (by name and billing only)
Josuee Ortiz and Ronald Kendrick were the two behind Eryxma. Neither have anything to do with Glexicon Communications, Inc.
Period.
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05-03-2004, 02:49 PM #28Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by binaris
I never denied Mike was in high school... YOU SAID WE WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER, which was incorrect as I pointed out. I noted that Mike goes to Stuy. Victor goes to Thomas Jefferson.
And you original reply to my ascertation that Michael was a high school student was not an admission. In fact the opposite as you tried to imply with "Stuy's in New York. Where's Glexicon located? Houston, Texas" that he couldn't be the same person. Whereas clearly he was.
But I guess we should all be used to your attempts to mislead. Like your "officially acquired the assets of eryxma."
More like "my friend let me copy all the data off his servers, so I can have an instant customer base". It might have worked if you hadn't made such a mess of the migration.
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05-03-2004, 06:29 PM #29Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by loz
More like "my friend let me copy all the data off his servers, so I can have an instant customer base". It might have worked if you hadn't made such a mess of the migration.
Anyone who wants to actually hear something true, I've replied with much more information now that I'm back on WHT.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=257215
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05-03-2004, 06:31 PM #30Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by loz
Where did I ever say you went to school together?Originally posted by loz
...they in fact just came to some arrangement with another high school buddy of theirs to take over his clients when he got bored. They all previously "worked" at Eryxma, before setting up Glexicon.
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05-04-2004, 12:54 AM #31Newbie
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Originally posted by loz
Where did I ever say you went to school together?
And you original reply to my ascertation that Michael was a high school student was not an admission. In fact the opposite as you tried to imply with "Stuy's in New York. Where's Glexicon located? Houston, Texas" that he couldn't be the same person. Whereas clearly he was.
But I guess we should all be used to your attempts to mislead. Like your "officially acquired the assets of eryxma."
More like "my friend let me copy all the data off his servers, so I can have an instant customer base". It might have worked if you hadn't made such a mess of the migration.
1) You stated we were in school together and Rob simply proved you incorrect.
2) I don't even know how to respond to such an outlandish comment about the eryxma migration.
3) Furthermore, I do not know how to respond to someone who believes that age is necessarily a factor in one's ability or knowledge in this, or any field. I know many teenagers from my school who could knock the socks off of most middle-aged IT workers in today's industry. I, for one, will be working at Morgan Stanley this summer (if all goes well) in addition to my duties at Glexicon.
Wow...never one to let truth interfere with your libel, eh?
Oh well. I need sleep.
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05-04-2004, 05:06 AM #32Junior Guru Wannabe
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The problem isn't your age, the problem is your "boss" trying to pretend his "staff" are not school children - until confronted with the evidence.
If his statement "lol... Incorrect. Stuy's in New York. Where's Glexicon located? Houston, Texas. A few minutes drive northeast of the DC in which our servers are located, in fact. Mike is with us because he's an experienced Linux sysadmin." wasn't an attempt to have me believe that you must be based in Houston with Glexicon then what was it?
When I said in reference to you "he also claims to be Webmaster at http://studentgov.stuy.edu and Co-Webmaster at http://www.stuy05.com - where he is a student."
Why exactly did Robert reply with "lol incorrect"? If you are so good, and there is no problem using students, why is trying to hide it?
Mike you sound like you are a clever kid. You deserve to do well. That job at Morgan Stanley is the sort of thing you should be focusing on. Don't let yourself get tared with the same brush as others.
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05-04-2004, 11:28 AM #33Newbie
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Originally posted by mborohovski
3) Furthermore, I do not know how to respond to someone who believes that age is necessarily a factor in one's ability or knowledge in this, or any field. I know many teenagers from my school who could knock the socks off of most middle-aged IT workers in today's industry. I, for one, will be working at Morgan Stanley this summer (if all goes well) in addition to my duties at Glexicon.
"I would have to agree with loz on the assessment that Glexicon has not exactly been forthright in disclosing the age of some of their staff members. Before arguements are made on either side of this point, any logical individual can see there are inherent issues (at times) that can result from a younger person becoming a staff member for a company serving thousands of clients. These issues can include (but are certainly not limited to) : other responsibilities that are often dictated by other individuals (school, familal responsibilities, etc), lack of a permanent residence in which said individual is the head of the household, lack of financial independence (including financially providing for one's domicile, one's own utilities (electric, gas, phone, internet connection, etc), one's own health plan or medical expenses, etc), lack of some personal freedoms, etc. Let me emphasize that these issues in no way discredit their talents or abilities, but it can certainly be seen how they could in fact affect their productivity and availability.
Will agree Stuyvesant is an excellent institution, though I am personally more fond of Hunter (have a younger relative who attends there). However, again, that being said, the aforementioned issues do matter, and are a concern to most business persons. I think much of the same mentioned above could be said in regards to a full time business person doing "work on the side" as a hosting company."
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05-04-2004, 01:33 PM #34Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by dericknwq
I was a Glexicon client and also an Eryxma Client.. everything you know on glexicon was great and is still fine till now.. except for problems with the Eryxma servers.. I'm so confused with all the nonsense here.. grr..
You must work for them.
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05-04-2004, 03:53 PM #35Newbie
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Originally posted by loz
The problem isn't your age, the problem is your "boss" trying to pretend his "staff" are not school children - until confronted with the evidence.
If his statement "lol... Incorrect. Stuy's in New York. Where's Glexicon located? Houston, Texas. A few minutes drive northeast of the DC in which our servers are located, in fact. Mike is with us because he's an experienced Linux sysadmin." wasn't an attempt to have me believe that you must be based in Houston with Glexicon then what was it?
You insinuated that we went to school together and we were friends through school..."school buddies" was the phrase you used if I recall correctly. Rob simply chose to prove to you that was impossible...that is ALL the quote above meant, don't overanalyze it.
When I said in reference to you "he also claims to be Webmaster at [insert link here] and Co-Webmaster at [insert link here] - where he is a student."
Why exactly did Robert reply with "lol incorrect"? If you are so good, and there is no problem using students, why is trying to hide it?
Mike you sound like you are a clever kid. You deserve to do well. That job at Morgan Stanley is the sort of thing you should be focusing on. Don't let yourself get tared with the same brush as others.
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05-04-2004, 04:12 PM #36Junior Guru Wannabe
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Originally posted by mborohovski
You insinuated that we went to school together and we were friends through school..."school buddies" was the phrase you used if I recall correctly. Rob simply chose to prove to you that was impossible...that is ALL the quote above meant, don't overanalyze it.
ALL I said wasEspecially when the poster is also a high school student
As well as "working" at Glexicon he also claims to be Webmaster at http://studentgov.stuy.edu and Co-Webmaster at http://www.stuy05.com - where he is a student.
As I believe are the rest of the "employees" at Glexicon
So, the only thing Robert was replying to when he said "lol...incorrect", was my claim that you were at school, or possibly that everyone was at school - but he qualified his remark with the comment on stuy, so I believe it was directed at you.
You can interpret it your way, I will continue to interpret it mine.
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05-04-2004, 08:25 PM #37Newbie
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You said all the rest of the employees at Glexicon go to Stuy as well, or at least that was how we interpreted your post.
That was what the reply was to. What's the big deal?
Heh.
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05-06-2004, 03:25 AM #38New Member
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Let's have a look at Joe's story...
Sorry, this is quite a long long long posting.... :-) Just skip to the dashed lines if you want to start reading Joe's story and skip my introduction ;-)
Hi to everyone,
I'm fairly new to WHT, and I definitely did not read ALL postings about Eryxma / Glexicon, so it is possible someone else has posted this information already...
Also I would like to point out that I do NOT know either of Joe, Robert, or any other former Eryxma people personally, apart from having chatted just one or two times with some of them in the past using AIM for support reasons.
I've never had any problems with Eryxma in the past, and all Eryxma employees (including Joe) were always quite helpfull to me.
Of course from the other end of the world, it is quite hard to see who is right and who is wrong. We only see lots of speculation about what happened, and we do see Robert replying a lot (which is good). However I am missing the story of what happened from point of view from Joe... So the first time I saw he was online on AIM again, I just asked him about his side of the story, and so that's what I got from him !
I don't know why he is not posting this information himself (or perhaps he already did, and I just missed it), I even don't know if someone else could have been using his AIM id (but I don't think that's likely). So I would stress again that this is NOT my story, I do NOT know anyone from Eryxma personally, and I am NOT pointing fingers to anyone to blame... I am just giving other people the opportunity to read what I got from Joe (he said I could do with it what I wanted...). Also I am not actively following WHT posts, just browsing around every once in a while, so don't count on immediate responses from me (although I might keep an eye on this thread some more now :-) )
My guess is that the truth is somewhere in the middle (it always is :-) ), and that due to some (or lots of) mis communication, or perhaps some lack of maturity from all employees, or perhaps the "two captains on one ship" syndrome, something went teribly wrong, which is too bad... :-( I was quite satisfied with Eryxma in the past !
Ok, enough nonsense from me :-). I end with wishing both Robert and Joe the best, and I hope things will work out a little better for both of them in the near future...
Greetings,
Fr1ts (an un-biased ex-eryxma customer).
P.S. Robert, you are sort of "the" person to fully try to respond to this. A huge pile of responses from other people probably would just lead to more speculation :-)
P.S.2. Sorry Patrick for posting the story below.
Here's what I got from Joe:
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I wished never to read this, but I ended up reading it anyways, and boy all I can say is amazing how everyone exagerated the truth, and what people do say about me, just amazing. I believe its time so say what really happened, as I see people are confused on what really happened, only cause pieces are missing on this.
I did start Glexicon, and I did came up with the name "Glexicon" from the terms Lexington Genetics, its a company a relative of mine works with. I did start Glexicon myself, but with Roberts knowing that I was trying to start a small little website for this company, nothing ever came of it, I just let it go, as I only worked on it for a few days, and thats it.
I started Eryxma as a small hosting biz, Robert did come up with the name, I went ahead and used it, I started just offering packages based on Ensim, I worked with Robert on this as him the designer for the website, he first came with the layout I worked on the rest( site can be found here :
h t t p: slash slash 100mostdynamic dot com slash 2002 slash profiles slash N-Eryxma.asp ). Everything during this time was worked by me, nobody else, until one time I had some problems with Squirrelmail and PHP problems with Ensim, so I had to go find someone to help me solve this , as I was stuck. I found Patrick LaCrosse in an EV1 chatroom, asking that he would be able to fix it for me. At first, he was unable to fix it, but I loved the way he always kept trying and trying to make it work, until he got it, took around 12 hours, but I just loved the way he didn't stop on the job. I then asked him if he wished to work with me on support tickets, and I would pay him for each ticket he made, he agreed, and we became good friends as we both talked about each others life. Eryxma
got bigger and bigger, it went very well with orders climbing over 10/20 a day, I tried to offer new stuff, so I was one of the first 50 companies to offer HSP/VPS to the public, became very good partners with SW-Soft, and we both continued to work together to make HSP and Virtuozzo very good VPS tools, I met and had many friends at sw-soft , our biz relationship was always great. After a while Patrick demanded more, and more from his stayed with me, even though he sometimes disappeared from working for a month, sometimes for 1-2 weeks, but still demanded me to pay him for him to work back with Eryxma, since I really liked his work, I did pay him, and he went ahead and did good work on tickets. I worked with Robert still, he worked on the website design, and he did abit of support, but I really didn't know
what he did, as he was always away and unreachable, and just things going behind my back that I noticed really bothered me. He bought servers, and worked on Glexicon back in the day, I had to find this the hard way, and kinda felt wierd him having access to billing, and everything of Eryxma while him working in his own other company. I still let it open, but what really bothered me was just chat logs I recieved about him:
RobertH Office (11:41:37 PM): what's up
parxhelic (11:42:04 PM): nada, trying to disable some dude's persistent
connections on cp6 righr now
RobertH Office (11:42:07 PM): got $49 i can borrow? lol
parxhelic (11:42:14 PM): hah!
RobertH Office (11:42:18 PM): :p
parxhelic (11:42:19 PM): funny guy
parxhelic (11:42:21 PM): :-)
parxhelic (11:42:40 PM): sure, if you come down to sugar land and bring me
my digi cam
parxhelic (11:42:41 PM): heh
RobertH Office (11:42:46 PM): hrm
RobertH Office (11:42:48 PM): dunno where it is
RobertH Office (11:42:49 PM): lol
parxhelic (11:42:51 PM): plus liquor from your mom's cabinet
RobertH Office (11:42:56 PM): hell nah
RobertH Office (11:43:00 PM): dat shits mine
RobertH Office (11:43:02 PM): foo
parxhelic (11:43:10 PM): cause i aint doin **** on a friday nite
parxhelic (11:43:17 PM): which is good
parxhelic (11:43:18 PM): heh
RobertH Office (11:43:21 PM): lol
RobertH Office (11:43:29 PM): i'm slangin again
RobertH Office (11:43:30 PM):
h t t p s: slash slash www dot paypal dot com slash xclick slash business=r.hinojosa%40eryxma dot com&item_name=Eryxma+Networks+%28Web+Hosting%29&item_number=Professional&amount=26.95&no_note=1¤cy_code=USD
RobertH Office (11:43:32 PM): :-)
parxhelic (11:43:51 PM): listen bish, i want cuts
RobertH Office (11:43:55 PM): i'm about to slide that amount over to three
digits
RobertH Office (11:44:00 PM): ppl wants these VPS
RobertH Office (11:44:01 PM): lol
parxhelic (11:44:10 PM): you're *creating* VPS's for them?
RobertH Office (11:44:17 PM): hrm
RobertH Office (11:44:20 PM): i will...
parxhelic (11:44:32 PM): i didnt know that could be done without a cc
RobertH Office (11:44:36 PM): yeah
RobertH Office (11:44:39 PM): i create it
RobertH Office (11:44:48 PM): and go to the billing thing
RobertH Office (11:44:52 PM): and pay their bill
RobertH Office (11:44:54 PM): :-)
RobertH Office (11:45:00 PM): only thing is,
RobertH Office (11:45:03 PM): joe might notice
parxhelic (11:45:03 PM): can you fake it out?
RobertH Office (11:45:12 PM): i just do a payment
RobertH Office (11:45:15 PM): like manual
RobertH Office (11:45:20 PM): just like MB
RobertH Office (11:45:25 PM): but you know..
RobertH Office (11:45:34 PM): VPS are up top in order of creation
RobertH Office (11:45:35 PM): so..
RobertH Office (11:45:36 PM): :-\
RobertH Office (11:45:40 PM): i dunno
RobertH Office (11:45:46 PM): i don't plan on being here much longer anyway
RobertH Office (11:45:55 PM): and when i leave it seems as if ppl want to go
too
RobertH Office (11:45:56 PM): hold
RobertH Office (11:46:06 PM): nm
RobertH Office (11:46:15 PM): www dot soundcircuit dot com guy said it
parxhelic (11:46:34 PM): you're talking crazy
RobertH Office (11:46:37 PM): said that i should tell Eryxma clients that
i'm starting something to give them the option of moving out
parxhelic (11:46:37 PM): you're not going anywhere foo
RobertH Office (11:46:40 PM): i dunno about that
parxhelic (11:46:42 PM): otherwise i'm gonna kick your azz
RobertH Office (11:46:43 PM): but maybe lol
parxhelic (11:46:44 PM): :-\
parxhelic (12:14:17 AM): that this company is just as much a part of our
creation
RobertH Office (12:14:28 AM): i know
RobertH Office (12:14:36 AM): but that won't change how things are
parxhelic (12:14:43 AM): parxhelic (12:14:36 AM): so its on our heads
RobertH Office (12:14:43 AM): especially when Joe doesn't want to
RobertH Office (12:14:49 AM): if he'd let other leadership come in...
RobertH Office (12:14:53 AM): then it wouldn't be so bad
RobertH Office (12:14:56 AM): but he won't
RobertH Office (12:15:04 AM): and he's disorganized
parxhelic (12:14:55 AM): RobertH Office (12:15:08 AM): and things just..
RobertH Office (12:15:09 AM): i dunno
RobertH Office (12:15:15 AM): i'm starting something new
RobertH Office (12:15:27 AM): and there are a lot of people who are pushing
me to keep with it this time
RobertH Office (12:15:29 AM): and i will
RobertH Office (12:15:36 AM): i'll be here at Eryxma though...
RobertH Office (12:15:43 AM): for a while
RobertH Office (12:17:10 AM): Joe will have hell to pay
parxhelic (12:16:30 AM): RobertH Office (12:17:17 AM): and they add interest
RobertH Office (12:17:22 AM): it will never go away
parxhelic (12:20:18 AM): RobertH Office (12:19:15 AM): if i see things turn
around
RobertH Office (12:19:17 AM): then we're cool
RobertH Office (12:19:26 AM): but everthing always falls through
RobertH Office (12:19:31 AM): i mean, everything monumental
parxhelic (12:20:13 AM): you mean inevitable?
parxhelic (12:20:13 AM): heh
RobertH Office (12:20:20 AM): no
parxhelic (12:20:21 AM): parxhelic (12:20:23 AM): what do you mean
monumental
RobertH Office (12:20:23 AM): everything huge
parxhelic (12:20:29 AM): ahh yeah i see
RobertH Office (12:20:33 AM): anything that could completely turn this
comany around
RobertH Office (12:20:38 AM): just kinda fades away
parxhelic (12:21:14 AM): parxhelic (12:21:26 AM): well, i think you want
what we all want
RobertH Office (12:21:43 AM): yeah i do
parxhelic (12:21:46 AM): stability
RobertH Office (12:21:49 AM): yeah
parxhelic (12:21:53 AM): we definitely are going to have continued growth
RobertH Office (12:21:55 AM): no matter what though, i'll be starting
another company..
parxhelic (12:21:24 AM): RobertH Office (12:22:11 AM): whether it's Eryxma's
competitor or not is yet to be determined
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After this, I tried to work with Robert on this, we thought we came to an agreement, but I did find out later on he was accepting money that was suppose to go to Eryxma's paypal, but to his, cause he made up a paypal account on billing@eryxma dot com NOT sales@eryxma dot com , so money has been sliding to his personal account unaccounted for in our billing, but him using this money to start his other company, which made me mad. I finally talked this to Pat to lock him out, we did, as I was afraid what other damage he might be able to do, but after a while I did need him back for the new website design. I did try to get in hold of him, but his 14 year old girlfriend told me that he was kicked out of his home, and needed money to rent an apartment, and asking me to give him $700 for him to find a place on his own. She said that if I do this, he will be willing to work back for me, to me all this felt just fishy, as I haven't talked to Rob or spoken to him about anything, especially after reading the above. I let it go, and waited him to speak to me again.
During this time I still worked with Pat on many things, I did give him a steady payroll, but just bothered me every week he demanded more and more, more he did this, more I felt of just letting him go. Especially when he comes to my house, and starts doing drugs, and buying Xanax, or whatever it is on the company's card. I didn't like he was addicted to this, and once tried to give it to me, but thats later on the story.
Pat had so much control at this point I got kinda scared, cause at any point he could cause some great harm to this company. It worked for a while, but later on I keep finding out him speaking to Robert , and this just bothers me a bit, cause again I believe something is being planned behind my back about this. I let it go, but again I just hope that maybe I can gain back the trust of Pat here. But again worried as I did want to get rid of him, but him leaving without causing any harm to Eryxma.
At one point me and Pat discussed a meeting me and Endurance had about selling Eryxma and all of its clients, their bid was pretty good at $500k, and I was just thinking its best not to sell it as it can make more than that a year later on, the way its growing. Later on that day, I did find out from my roommate Patrick called him asking to sell Eryxma to Endurance and make him give him 100% share , but to do this behind my back. I felt pretty wierd as I don't see how Pat could accomplish something when nothing is under him. During this time, he got agressive more and more , that he demands more money , I always keep telling him that Eryxma can't provide any more than what he is recieving now. He found out what I was using is my savings to purchase everything that I have, as this savings account is for me alone given to me when I was a child, that right now its a pretty nice reasonable amount for me to live on, he wanted me to use it on him now too.
When I decided to buy a house for myself, because we hated neighbors complaining about noise complaints, we couldn't stay there anymore, I was away for a week, cause during this time we had to move everything and reestablish internet on my new house, I always put faith on Pat for him to take care of the company on my absense, but when I came back I was wrong.
I worked day and night to finish the duties of Eryxma that was left behind for a week, but later while working I find out during my away, Patrick transfered the domain Eryxma dot com and MYHOSTDNS.ORG away to his name, he now owned the domain names, and later on he tells me he trademarked the name Eryxma, for what he says to protect his investment. I told him that the above actions were unnecessary, and I don't see why he would do this, only but to threathen me. After finding the above, I tried to come over his house that day to talk this over with him, since I didn't find him in our meeting spot here at the mall, as I didn't wish for him to know where I bought my new house at.
He wasn't home, I left an old ID of mine and a ThePlanet card on his garage door, as is where his room is at, and left. Did come back to see if he was still there 3 hours later, and he didn't showed up, so I went back home, 1 hour drive back home.
I talked to Pat the next day online, he said he wishes to talk to me on the phone, but as paranoid as I was about he has the power to just threathen me over everything right now for me to loose it all. I tried to see if there is anyway to get my domains back, as I know he won't just hand them over to me, as everything else could be handled server wise, but the domains is what I was most worried about. I made him come over to my house, the plan for me since he always got drunk, to at least keylog the laptop that I bought him, so I could get access to the passwords and transfer these domains to my own again, or find the passwords on registry, or temp logs.
when he came over, he gave me a pill and a half of Xanax, I didn't know what it will cause until later on that day, I find myself way over my head, unable to control what I wish to happen. I tried to get the laptop thing finished, all I could do at the moment, is hide it on the attic while I worked on it up there on installing the keylogger, and handing it back. It did backfire, he took his laptop and left crazy out of the house, pushed me against the wall, about to hit me, but he was unable to do so, as I had 2 other guys with me to protect me just in case Patrick did anything out of control. He saw and left, and later on I find out he calls Robert and tells him things on my new location, and stuff like that.
After this I knew getting my domains will be impossible, I find out the domain eryxma dot com DNS has been changed to Network Solutions, away from our servers, so I had 24-72 hours to do something with my clients, before Patrick changed myhostdns.org nameservers too, and people fine eryxma dot com to be gone. As I've lost control over this now.
When he gets home, he talks to me online on something which I can't remember that he says we talked on the phone that night. He said that I said that I would give him $25k from my savings to get my domains back, and for him to leave me alone, this is the log we had, I always try to talk to him nice and calm , cause again I wish to get my domains back and deal with him as friendly as possible so I could recieve what I want back:
parxhelic: and you took my laptop bag and stuck it in the attic
parxhelic: lol
Shiekron: those were cleaned already
Shiekron: heh my only goal with your laptop was one thing
Shiekron: take the passwords for
h t t p s: slash slash www dot godaddy dot com slash gdshop slash s_display.asp?prog_id=GoDaddy&g=151495da-4e7d-434c-a6
ed-4079f56f30a5
Shiekron: suppose to say rhinojosa not placrosse1
parxhelic: sweet
parxhelic: heh
parxhelic: didnt see this screen
Shiekron: that was my single goal
Shiekron: since i knew you won't give them to me
parxhelic: well how did you expect to get it from my laptop?
parxhelic: lol
Shiekron: registry
parxhelic: take out thr drive and mount it?
Shiekron: nah
parxhelic: you cant get in without my passwd on bootup
Shiekron: i will just put in a floppy
parxhelic: no floppy :-)
Shiekron: well that will require jumpers
Shiekron: or as you said mount it
parxhelic: it wouldnt have been possible unless i was asleep
parxhelic: and you were quick
Shiekron: i've done it before
parxhelic: nice plan, but really dumbly executed
parxhelic: heh
parxhelic: it could have worked
Shiekron: i had my disks and everything ready
parxhelic: lol
Shiekron: to be done and quickly
parxhelic: damn man
parxhelic: nice
parxhelic: heh
Shiekron: but now eh, whatever **** it
parxhelic: i'm not mad now after our convos last night
parxhelic: heh
Shiekron: i am going to plan b, which is going to be a pain in the ***
parxhelic: brb
Shiekron: alright
parxhelic: what's plan b?
parxhelic: heh
Shiekron: eryxma is transfering
Shiekron: heh
parxhelic: huh?
parxhelic: wow, i guess you didnt mean anything you said
parxhelic: ok
parxhelic: interesting
parxhelic: plan b for me too
parxhelic: i thought we had an understanding last night
Shiekron: we do
Shiekron: i want to work with you, etc
parxhelic: and i also thought we were goign to make an arrangement to help
get me out
parxhelic: because i need security, i need my own place, and i need it quick
parxhelic: i want a years salary
parxhelic: that's what i want, simple enough right
parxhelic: i'm willing to let you have that
parxhelic: but i want financial security
parxhelic: and then we can drop the power struggles
parxhelic: and i can stop stressing about being under my mom's thumb
Shiekron: it took hard sarcrafice to start this company, it took alot of
guts, i hate to give up alot of this to start this company and maintain it
parxhelic: like we were talking
parxhelic: this is a partnership
Shiekron: now you are well trying to take it from me
parxhelic: shared authority, its what you and I both want
parxhelic: a legal trust
parxhelic: i dont want eryxma to myself
Shiekron: something that i created and loved, and cherrised
parxhelic: actually no dude
parxhelic: i wnat a years salary
Shiekron: i am giving you that
Shiekron: i could give you that
Shiekron: but
Shiekron: the way you act
parxhelic: because that will eliminate 99% of our problems
Shiekron: just makes me so hard to believe on you again
parxhelic: i can promise you that
parxhelic: trust me now
Shiekron: when i had you in a steady income before
parxhelic: here
Shiekron: you every day
parxhelic: lets talk on the phone
Shiekron: every week
Shiekron: you wanted more
Shiekron: more
parxhelic: i need to tell you something
Shiekron: and more
Shiekron: more and more control
Shiekron: i can't stand that
Shiekron: i am the one in control, the way it should be
On the phone I was talking to him on speakerphone, at first he said he wants $25k from my savings to him, so he could get what he wants as it is said above. I denied that I ever came up with this agreement to him. I told him I don't feel confrotable on Patrick blackmailing me because of money, and on trying to take my company apart, he says it isn't blackmail, but is something so he could be "financially stable" , I keep telling him that is why jobs exists, if you don't like it then leave to another job, leave what is mine alone. I saved every conversation we had on tape, from now on, even the conversation we had about this, cause I did want to take this to legal action to get my company name back, but I was limited on time as the domain was already propagating to new DNS.
I talked to Robert about this, if he had anything to do with this, he said no, I always been a friend to Robert, always wanted to work with him, so I decided to move my clients data to new servers, and be placed on Glexicons name. I didn't have no choice, but to do this, as I did really want to try to work with Robert.
Robert told me what has been going on with him and Patrick, and seemed to me like nothing really has been going on, which is why I trusted him again. We setup a meeting at a restaurant, as I planned on buying us a private rack with EV1, and I did to transfer everything, and discuss on how this will work. I took a tape recorder with me, and recorded our whole time with Robert and I and my friend to disuss Incorporation taxes, and everything if everything will be set to proper accounting. Meeting went well, I welcomed Robert to my house, we talked some more, and showed him the logs I had of him for what he did to Eryxma on the past, and I just told him I don't wish for him to cause harm to Eryxma.Glexicon again if we do plan to work together. He agreed, he felt sorry for what he did, and I apologized to him too for lying to him on the past, well its mostly about my past. I went ahead gave the deposit money for the rack, we got it going, I worked 3-4 days straight with diet pills so I wouldn't go to sleep on transfering everything, I was secluded from everything, and tried to transfer all data as fast as possible, day and night. The 2nd day I was done, I needed to make CPanel servers work, I made them all work and functional, and just had one server left , cs3, cause its /etc/shadow file was messed up needed a manual fixup from old cps to cs3. I was too tired I went to bed, when I woke up, I saw these stories about me, me locked up, saw Pat able to login to the servers now, even I was locked from the old servers and new. I was confused at first what was going on, as nobody was communicating with me, and at this point there was nothing really in my power I could do as I was locked out from everything, after all the work has been done by me. The only thing left was me to setup the VPS servers with the licenses which I owned, but later on I revoked all sw-soft licenses to be kept only to be under my name, as I hated that once again I was backstabbed on the back by this, and by the 2 people which I worked very well and placed faith with on the past, just stab me on the back. I talked to my attorney after this, we were going to have a meeting with Patrick and I about our situation, but since it was escalated to this point, we had to cancel the sell of Eryxma to Endurance, and everything else that was under me to be placed on the responsibilities of Robert H. as he is right now controlling everything that has been going on, not myself anymore. I did place an order with my merchant to hold all funds, as they have been holding funs for the past 2 months, and for last months funds/transactions to be refunded, but since its alot of transactions, they will be holding the funds until all is completed.
I felt real back about this, its like someone just stealing omething you worked very hard on, and I really depended on this company alot, to be just taken away for greed, and for someone elses benefit, and revenge on my for something which I started to be very very well. I do apologize for what has been going on, and for the situation my clients are on because of this, I tried my best to regain it, but it was out of my control.
I do find it mad, that I bought the articles of incorporation for Glexicon, I bought the new servers for Glexicon, and I did all the transfer work myself, to be placed at the end with nothing, which I thought that it would still be saved. Again thought this is currently on the process of being canceled. But again , I am willing go still go by the term, "What goes around, comes around."
Thank you for your time, I am not, and won't post anything else after this, nor would I answer any questions from anyone, as I did cover as much as I could on the above. To stop any gaps in the stories that I've been reading, even some which I find to be totally false, made up fairy tales.
I do wish though to have space to place all my recording of Patrick and I, the conversation Robert and I had on the restaurant, to backup my story, and all logs which I have. Only to back the truth of all of this. But again I don't wish to do so, because I feel all you guys need is the above.
Again I like to thank you for your time, and I do highly apologize for all of this.
-Joe
Thank you
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05-06-2004, 05:48 AM #39Newbie
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I honestly now think you all have a team of writers and sit around each evening coming up with new plot twists.. I do applaud the captivating story you all have been leaking out slowly over the last few weeks. Maybe truth is stranger than fiction, but who could have imagined all of this??
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05-06-2004, 06:15 AM #40Web Hosting Guru
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Hmm... by the use of the English language, that does seem to be Josuee.
And he did mention that he'd be "posting to clear this all up" on the several occasions that he threatened to start Shiekron Networks. I assume Fr1ts is actually the 20 year old Josuee lost his virginity to (see a few pages back in tolkiengoddess's LiveJournal), or another friend of his (Ronnie, Wes, etc...).
While I'm not going to address everything in that post, simply because it's 5AM and I haven't the time, that's a very nice manipulation of the facts.
The point being, as I skim through the above, is that we ended the deal and severed all ties with Josuee when we became aware of his actions. Nobody honestly had any clue he was fraudulently charging Eryxma clients until I saw it with my own eyes... that completely invalidated the "cron error" story he told earlier. Upon finding this out, Patrick and I locked him out of any access from Glexicon's servers (which I went in person to pay for at EV1 - Debbie Brady can confirm this) and once we were sure he was out, we posted the announcement on our forums. We waited because of the fear of retaliation... Josuee did not have full access to everything, but had enough.
Why aren't those fraudulent charges mentioned in this "letter from Joe" and why does he not address that he's continued to charge these clients (http://forums.glexicon.com/showthread.php?t=565)? Why does he not tell everyone that he's using the money he's stealing from everyone to buy a new DishNetwork satellite system (if he wins the auction, that is)?
I wasn't going to post on WHT while I get a few things done, but this is certainly interesting, and will require a more thorough response.
The "letter from Joe" is more of a "fairy tale" than anything I've ever posted.
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05-06-2004, 06:26 AM #41Web Hosting Guru
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One last thing before I head off for the night/morning... worked as quickly as possible? Did all the work himself?
Funny stuff...
Accounts were tarballed, transferred, and partially restored by Josuee as a result of his conditional agreement. Patrick, Phil, Mike, Victor, and myself did the majority of the finish work from there, and still continue to fix the numerous mistakes made during that transfer.
Josuee was rarely online, and what should have taken 3 days turned into over a week (and it still wasn't complete).
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05-06-2004, 06:33 AM #42Web Hosting Guru
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Oh Jesus Christ...
After this, I tried to work with Robert on this, we thought we came to an agreement, but I did find out later on he was accepting money that was suppose to go to Eryxma's paypal, but to his, cause he made up a paypal account on billing@eryxma dot com NOT sales@eryxma dot com , so money has been sliding to his personal account unaccounted for in our billing, but him using this money to start his other company, which made me mad. I finally talked this to Pat to lock him out, we did, as I was afraid what other damage he might be able to do, but after a while I did need him back for the new website design. I did try to get in hold of him, but his 14 year old girlfriend told me that he was kicked out of his home, and needed money to rent an apartment, and asking me to give him $700 for him to find a place on his own. She said that if I do this, he will be willing to work back for me, to me all this felt just fishy, as I haven't talked to Rob or spoken to him about anything, especially after reading the above. I let it go, and waited him to speak to me again.
I'll be back later in the morning, or in just a minute if I find something else that is so completely false that it requires an immediate response.
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05-06-2004, 06:35 AM #43Newbie
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Originally posted by binaris
The "letter from Joe" is more of a "fairy tale" than anything I've ever posted.
Am I shocked at this account of Robert & Patrick? not really. Is it an exaggeration, probably. I actually believe quite a bit of this. Obviously, much of it doesn't make sense, like owning a company worth $500k and you just give up and let these two guys take it... not likely.
First of all, Robert's reaction of childishly pointing out who Joe slept with.. that's just sad in the SERIOUSNESS of this!! (Good for Joe by the way.. I'd nail her.. )
Why couldn't Joe get the domain back from his employee??? Why couldn't Joe get the laptop back from Patrick since I thought it was a work laptop. Why was Joe going to transfer everything on Eryxma to Glexicon?? There is more to this story neither of these guys will explain. CLEARLY there is a conspiracy of some sort that both Joe & Robert were involved in.
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05-06-2004, 06:41 AM #44Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by torrents
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this.. How very fitting of a quote.
Originally posted by torrents
First of all, Robert's reaction of childishly pointing out who Joe slept with.. that's just sad in the SERIOUSNESS of this!! (Good for Joe by the way.. I'd nail her.. )
Originally posted by torrents
There is more to this story neither of these guys will explain. CLEARLY there is a conspiracy of some sort that both Joe & Robert were involved in.
I have a feeling I won't be sleeping.
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05-06-2004, 06:45 AM #45Newbie
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Things I know..
- Joe steals from friends (multiple testimonies) and clients (TacidBlue)
- These guys need to grow up.. I don't care who's girlfriend is older!!
- These bastards were working on moving Eryxma to another server for at least a week and NEVER told anyone their intentions!
- It seems like Joe could have just said "NO, you can't have my webhosting business"
- Patrick somehow ended up with control of Eryxma (I will be telling my lawyers to contact you)
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05-06-2004, 06:48 AM #46Web Hosting Guru
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Originally posted by torrents
- These guys need to grow up.. I don't care who's girlfriend is older!!
You apparently didn't read this whole thread as one would assume you had, otherwise you would know why I said what I did.
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05-06-2004, 06:54 AM #47Newbie
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Originally Posted by Josuee
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05-06-2004, 06:55 AM #48Web Hosting Guru
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torrents,
Check the link I posted to the thread our forums.
As you can see, his merchant account is (1) not locked, or (2) he has a new merchant account, because on 5/4/2004 he charged everyone once again.
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05-06-2004, 07:13 AM #49Web Hosting Guru
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EDIT: "You apparently didn't read this whole thread as one would assume you had..."
Also the "Eryxma Down [Merged]" thread, as the information mentioned in my previous posts was posted there.
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05-06-2004, 07:57 AM #50Junior Guru Wannabe
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The only thing left was me to setup the VPS servers with the licenses which I owned, but later on I revoked all sw-soft licenses to be kept only to be under my name, as I hated that once again I was backstabbed on the back by this, and by the 2 people which I worked very well and placed faith with on the past, just stab me on the back.
You know, Robert... (I heave enough time waiting on backup of my VPS account since april 19)... when this "dirty, dirty rat" Ortiz take care for us, customers, everything seems to be fine... support center answered on every ask in few hours, they helped a lot... now when you work withaout Ortiz I noticed (I coudn't miss this triffle) that support center is not able to solve problem from april 27 (when I posted first support ticket)
Funny, I belive that all three of you (you, Patric and Josee) are lieing. Well, I'm waiting so long on my backup that I heave funny ideas... BTW - you are still not able to give me my VPS backup? Is it offensive to ask you how long must I wait? Cann you estimate time, fe. 24 hours, 48 hours, next week, never? Or is offensive to aks you this question?
And how is possible that Ortiz, "dirty, dirty rat", ofer better support to customers as you do? Just asking... during waiting...