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    hivelocity.net LOW DOWN DIRTY NO GOOD!!

    http://reseller-hosting.hivelocity.n...ixreseller.asp

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...MatrixReseller


    You know there is one thing to market your site but these guys have just stepped over the line. Along with there spamming now they want to do this.. Boy do they have some kind of BALLs.
    Last edited by Vortech; 04-29-2004 at 11:10 AM.

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    Took me a while to get what you are saying (I'm kinda slow today) but that's pretty messed up. Hey, you know they're from Tampa. You should go pay them a visit.

    Or I could.

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    yea I am thinking about it..

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    OK so I guess they are not the worst any more.. hostdepartment.com host department took things to a new level. I am sure half of you here are listed as I have seen about 10 that I know are on this forum.


    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_ho...echhosting.com
    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_ho...chhosting.com/
    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_ho...ixreseller.com
    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_ho...xreseller.com/


    What the get with pages like this is when some one searches for your name, domain it comes up on the first page on google if its been listed good. They had like 4th place for our name..

    I have sent them a warning and also going after them for SLANDER because of this section:

    Compared to MatrixReseller, Host Department provides a wide range of web hosting plans, and offers highly scalable web hosting plans to meet your website requirements. Any current plan can be upgraded instantly to a higher available web hosting plans at any given time. MatrixReseller does not provide this kind of instant scalability. Compared to MatrixReseller, Host Department's web hosting pricing are also considered a bargain for the level of service we offer and the reliability which our customers received.

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    Originally posted by Vortech
    OK so I guess they are not the worst any more.. hostdepartment.com host department took things to a new level. I am sure half of you here are listed as I have seen about 10 that I know are on this forum.


    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_ho...echhosting.com
    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_ho...chhosting.com/
    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_ho...ixreseller.com
    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_ho...xreseller.com/


    What the get with pages like this is when some one searches for your name, domain it comes up on the first page on google if its been listed good. They had like 4th place for our name..

    I have sent them a warning and also going after them for SLANDER because of this section:

    Compared to MatrixReseller, Host Department provides a wide range of web hosting plans, and offers highly scalable web hosting plans to meet your website requirements. Any current plan can be upgraded instantly to a higher available web hosting plans at any given time. MatrixReseller does not provide this kind of instant scalability. Compared to MatrixReseller, Host Department's web hosting pricing are also considered a bargain for the level of service we offer and the reliability which our customers received.
    I understand your point, but I fail to see how that's slander? Maybe using your name without permission but not slander?
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    I could be wrong, but saying something that is NOT true is slander is it not?

    Right from dictionary.com

    Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
    A false and malicious statement or report about someone.


    What they said about us and everyone else listed there would be slander if its no true. It is also hurting your reputation causing you loss of income. I could go on..

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    Ether I am way behind or this really seems to be becoming some kind of trend.. If this is an ok practice then I guess I need to get to setting up some pages.. But I think its the lowest kind of marketing I have EVER seen..

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    What they said about us and everyone else listed there would be slander if its no true.
    Might be libel instead.

    Also from dictionary.com, taken from Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
    4. (Law) The crime of issuing a malicious defamatory publication.
    #include<cstdio>
    char*s="#include<cstdio>%cchar*s=%c%s%c;%cint main(){std::printf(s,10,34,s,34,10);}";
    int main(){std::printf(s,10,34,s,34,10);}

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    before going to any legal procedure, and cost you a lot, just send them an email to take the section down... be nice to them, dont threaten them yet, and they just might...

    hope you the best of luck

    -AJ

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    It would be libel, as slander is the intent to damage ones reputation through word of mouth.

    Libel is where a publication knowingly attacks someone's reputation knowing that what they say is false.

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    Yea sorry I got the 2 mixed up.. It would be libel..

    I sent them an email 24 hours ago, I am going to give them till monday at 5pm.

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    that's not to cool - it's like those damn gluttons filling popup pages w/ keywords that have little competition just to turn a profit.

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    Re: hivelocity.net LOW DOWN DIRTY NO GOOD!!

    The first link appears to be down. What exactly did it contain?

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    I'm curious of that too, their main page looks good, except the "Unlimited" all over the place...
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    if you haven't considered chapter 7 bankruptcy, maybe you should.
    eliminate your debt, keep the property you want, most people qualify.
    contrary to popular belief - no attorney is necessary!

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    Yea thats what this post started over..

    Then after they removed that page then I found this by host department.. Both of them are in FL.. I am starting to think something is in the air here.. LoL

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    Actually, HostDepartment's address is just a Pak Mail type of place here in Sarasota. I emailed them and asked them about it before, that's what they told me. Just a mailing address - everything gets forwarded to them (or something to that affect).

    Hivelocity is located in Clearwater. I almost got a job there, several months ago, but I couldn't get transportation/daycare figured out.

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    Well I gave them 48 hours, anyone think I should give them till 5PM today to remove that stuff? I mean it is the first day of the work week, so I am trying to be nice..

    rockergrrl, it might be a good thing you did not go to Hivelocity, they are also some big time spammers.. There is a few things posted in the psoft forum about them spamming other hosts among other things.

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    Originally posted by Vortech
    . . . But I think its the lowest kind of marketing I have EVER seen..
    Yep, it's lamo n00b talentless brand leeching.
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    They have no clue what trash they're sprouting out too.

    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_ho...any/httpme.com
    Unlike HTTPme.com PTY LTD, Host Department uses third party payment processing companies. This policy adds more safety point for you to use Host Department compared to HTTPme.com PTY LTD which uses its own bank to process your payment.
    HTTPme uses Paysystems only. So much for their automated info grabbing page sprouting absolute trash. They have redefined lameness.
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    Aussie Bob, You should send them an email as well. If we all do he.net will pull them at some point.. Thats seems to be where there systems are..

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    Well, they dont have us listed. Of course that just backs up my claims that we are the best, and you dont dare compare to the best

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    Wow, at first I did not think the hivelocity thing was that big of a deal, as they did not seem to libel, slander, whatever, and since I did not find your name at the Trademark/Servicemark office i was not sure they were doing anything wrong, but host dept has taken it to a new level, and I see more than a few things false among their multiple "host comparisons". I can say that in general I have no problem with host comparisons, but some of that is just dirty. Most of the time I have seen acceptable product comparisons (IMO) has been more of a table laying out the facts of disk space, tranfer, and such as that, and that would be acceptable, but this is really not facts, for a number of the companies "compared"

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    Wow, I just got to looking at this some more, they are mighty proud of using 2checkout as a anti fraud source and discredit anyone not using 2co or paypal. Well, I always thought having your own merchant account and auth.net would be better, as they are actually charging directly. But, I am just a misguided fool I guess.

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    http://www.hostdepartment.com/web_hosting_company/

    Tell me that isnt automated ? It's blank!

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