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    swap hosting for honest feedback?

    Would it be considered advertising for me to offer here to exchange a year of web hosting for some honest feedback about the hosting experience?
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    I don't understand what you mean by 'web hosting experience'?
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    I believe what he means, if the following;

    He's willing to give 1 year of FREE hosting to a couple of people, who in return will write up honest reviews about his company every 3 - 6 months.

    And he was curious if that would be considered adverts.

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    Danke, I'm always on a different wave length when it comes to website reviews.
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    Originally posted by G2-Hosting
    I believe what he means, if the following;

    He's willing to give 1 year of FREE hosting to a couple of people, who in return will write up honest reviews about his company every 3 - 6 months.

    And he was curious if that would be considered adverts.
    Precisely ... any thoughts, is it kosher?
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    Originally posted by dynamis
    Precisely ... any thoughts, is it kosher?
    It could be, but we would have to assume that the people writing the reviews were writing them without bias. It is hard to write a bad review about a host that is giving you free hosting.

    On the other hand, it seems like a pretty good strategy to bring in more clients.

    Would it be considered advertising? Well, maybe. I think if you force them to give the review, it would be. Maybe you should just strongly suggest that they do it?
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    It would be like buying their reviews. It isn't a bad idea as most customers are reluctant to write about their good experiences, only their bad.

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    Originally posted by miakeru
    It could be, but we would have to assume that the people writing the reviews were writing them without bias. It is hard to write a bad review about a host that is giving you free hosting.

    On the other hand, it seems like a pretty good strategy to bring in more clients.

    Would it be considered advertising? Well, maybe. I think if you force them to give the review, it would be. Maybe you should just strongly suggest that they do it?
    Naw ... there wouldn't be any strings attached. And it would be just as much to help with my own improvements as it would be to get the word out.

    Agreed, that it seems difficult to write a bad review about a company that is giving you free hosting. But hopefully at least no one could bring themselves to write a good review about a company giving bad hosting!
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    Originally posted by dynamis
    Naw ... there wouldn't be any strings attached. And it would be just as much to help with my own improvements as it would be to get the word out.

    Agreed, that it seems difficult to write a bad review about a company that is giving you free hosting. But hopefully at least no one could bring themselves to write a good review about a company giving bad hosting!
    Good points.

    If I were you, I would probably make a little mention as to how much it would be appreciated if they left a review here after a few months. Make it clear that it is by no means required, and does not determine whether they receive free hosting or not.

    Best of luck with it, and be sure to get back to us on how it works.
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    Hmm ... only problem now is a sticky post I just read in "web hosting offers > Shared and Reseller Hosting Offers" section about how NO free web hosting offers are allowed anywhere on WHT.

    I'm enjoying my time here and don't want to get booted! So I probably can't really post the offer here ... I'll have to find some other way to make the offer.

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    Make it on your website

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    Originally posted by dynamis
    Hmm ... only problem now is a sticky post I just read in "web hosting offers > Shared and Reseller Hosting Offers" section about how NO free web hosting offers are allowed anywhere on WHT.

    I'm enjoying my time here and don't want to get booted! So I probably can't really post the offer here ... I'll have to find some other way to make the offer.

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    Ah, yes. I didn't know you planned on advertising the offer. I thought you were wondering if the posts by the clients would be considered advertisement.
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    This is an interesting idea. Now, hypothetically what if someone you were giving free hosting to for this were to write up a bad review? Would you immediately cancel service?

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    Originally posted by cybexhost1
    This is an interesting idea. Now, hypothetically what if someone you were giving free hosting to for this were to write up a bad review? Would you immediately cancel service?
    Ohhhh, Good Question...

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    .....I thought it was.

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    Yes,
    In my opinion, it is simply advertising.

    Mediocre, suddenly becomes very good. Very good becomes excellent. Very bad becomes 'ok'.. and thus the cycle continues.

    The advert would attract the sort of person with the mindset of;
    'i get 6 month's free hosting.. spend 5 minutes saying they rule, and hope for 6 more'.

    Sad? yes. True? most probably.

    Sure, it gives you your review, after 6 month's, but who's to say the person will even stay that long? they may host for free for 3 month's, then hop ship, getting out the review.

    Another point to keep in mind, is the person may also feel pressured into writing a good review. If you were to call for a review after 3 month's, the guy think's 'ok, if I wanna stay the extra 3 month's, i'll just say abchost.com rocks'.

    It's human nature i'm afraid.

    Give them an inch...

    Your intentions may be good (or maybe not?), but the idea is inherently flawed.

    Not only would the review be tainted, as surely a review has to state value for money... in this case.. "what money" come's to mind, but I think you'd just be opening yourself up to the 'money back club'.

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    Originally posted by cybexhost1
    This is an interesting idea. Now, hypothetically what if someone you were giving free hosting to for this were to write up a bad review? Would you immediately cancel service?
    Well no ... in all honesty, I would do everything in my power to address all issues they raised and overwhelm them with my courteous and effective response. (No, I'm serious!)

    After all half the web hosting community would be watching to see how it turned out and my goal would be to impress them to the point where they would post a second review indicating everything had been worked out to their satisfaction.

    If nothing else ... without a drop of altruistic blood in my veins ... yanking someone's site -- free or not -- simply in response to a bad review -- would be suicidal.

    Besides ... IMHO yanking a site is just wrong, unless it's a flagrant violation of an acceptable use policy and the user refuses to respond to courteous (and documented) requests for resolution of the situation. Frankly for me to yank a site based on my AUP, they'd have to be spamming or putting up a porn site or something. It's come up in the past actually, with sites that weren't flagrantly violating the AUP but were more "borderline" and I'm happy to report I've always been able to give them a reasonable period of time to move elsewhere with as little downtime or hassle as possible.

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    He's got a really good point.

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    Well, that is very true. It is basically like endorsements on TV, you are paying people to provide a good word or two about your company. Nonetheless, I would like to see your opinion on my question:

    If they were to write a bad review about your company, would you immediately cut service?

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    Originally posted by dynamis
    Well no ... in all honesty, I would do everything in my power to address all issues they raised and overwhelm them with my courteous and effective response. (No, I'm serious!)

    After all half the web hosting community would be watching to see how it turned out and my goal would be to impress them to the point where they would post a second review indicating everything had been worked out to their satisfaction.

    If nothing else ... without a drop of altruistic blood in my veins ... yanking someone's site -- free or not -- simply in response to a bad review -- would be suicidal.

    Besides ... IMHO yanking a site is just wrong, unless it's a flagrant violation of an acceptable use policy and the user refuses to respond to courteous (and documented) requests for resolution of the situation. Frankly for me to yank a site based on my AUP, they'd have to be spamming or putting up a porn site or something. It's come up in the past actually, with sites that weren't flagrantly violating the AUP but were more "borderline" and I'm happy to report I've always been able to give them a reasonable period of time to move elsewhere with as little downtime or hassle as possible.

    Tom
    You posted at the same time as I posed my question again, sorry. That is very good that you honestly would continue providing service to the reviewers, that means you really care about how your clients view you and your company. It is still advertising nonetheless, since you are paying someone for a few good words. As much as you say they could talk down about your company, no one receiving free hosting for a monthly review would talk down on it, in fear their hosting would discontinue.

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    Originally posted by cybexhost1
    This is an interesting idea. Now, hypothetically what if someone you were giving free hosting to for this were to write up a bad review? Would you immediately cancel service?
    How about fixing all the issues in the bad review, then getting another review and then somehow taking credit for being responsive to the customers. :-)


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    Originally posted by cybexhost1
    That is very good that you honestly would continue providing service to the reviewers, that means you really care about how your clients view you and your company.
    Thanks! And actually I really do, maybe almost to a fault. However I imagine there will always be times when just about anyone in this business needs a little armor and backbone to stand behind a good decision.

    It is still advertising nonetheless, since you are paying someone for a few good words. As much as you say they could talk down about your company, no one receiving free hosting for a monthly review would talk down on it, in fear their hosting would discontinue.
    Good points about the fear factor inhibiting honest response, and about it being advertising. In fact now that I think about it, it smacks of MLM of all things. Yuck!

    I guess all this begs the question, though, if you knew of an organization with a website that needed some way to save money on hosting, and you came across such an offer, and used it (to help out that organization), and the hosting itself turned out to be a mixed bag (some things you loved, some things that weren't there that you wished were, some things you didn't like, etc) would you write an honest review or would fear be a factor?
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