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04-25-2004, 12:27 AM #26Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by taketo
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04-25-2004, 12:27 AM #27Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by taketo
I've only been in business for a month . . .
Yes, it shows.
. . . and got about 60 customers who paid about 2500 Dollar in total. 10,000 customers is about 12 or 13 a day for two years. That is in fact possible.
But don't take it too bad, we all said dumb things when we were starting out, and most folks would have given HTTPme about the same chance of success, so miracles do happen!
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04-25-2004, 12:29 AM #28Superhero
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Originally posted by taketo
last 3 business days I got 6 a day so I am getting closer to it.Webmaster Forum • webmastertalk.net • Webmaster Community Forum
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04-25-2004, 12:29 AM #29Temporarily Suspended
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I didn't say that I am only offering $2 plans. My plans range from $2 to $10. And no, I am not going to tell you my address, sorry.
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04-25-2004, 12:31 AM #30Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by taketo
If I put 300 clients on a $79 server who pay an average of $4 a month I'll make $14400 a year from the server which costs $950 a year. That is quite good I think... 30 full servers and you make more than $400.000 a year.
One tech per 300 clients. Three techs for each 300 clients to cover 24/7 on eight hour shifts. Say you did minimum wage...
9000 clients divided by 300. That's 30 techs. Three techs for each shift. That's 90 techs. $6.25 times 40 hours for $250 per week per tech. $250 per week times 90 techs. You're laying out $22,500 per week for 52 weeks for a grand total of...
$1,170,000!
However, you're only bringing in $400,000 a year.
Let's not forget about paying server admins. You're not going to get those for $6.25 an hour. How about more like $75-$125 an hour?
We'll not even get into the fact that it is *very* unlikely that you're going to get 300 clients on a $79 box before your server loads go through the roof.
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04-25-2004, 12:36 AM #31Temporarily Suspended
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Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Yes, it shows.
Well, good luck. I give you about 0.5% chance of building a 10,000 client hosting operation.
But don't take it too bad, we all said dumb things when we were starting out, and most folks would have given HTTPme about the same chance of success, so miracles do happen!
Small piece of advice - humble yourself to the larger hosts around you here, who have been there and done that. They will gladly supply you with a fortune worth of free consultancy. [/B]
One question, guys: How long do you think it will take until my business will be gone. Please let me know so I can remind you once the time is over.0
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04-25-2004, 12:43 AM #32Temporarily Suspended
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Originally posted by Coach
300 clients multiplied by 30 servers. 9000 clients.
One tech per 300 clients. Three techs for each 300 clients to cover 24/7 on eight hour shifts. Say you did minimum wage...
9000 clients divided by 300. That's 30 techs. Three techs for each shift. That's 90 techs. $6.25 times 40 hours for $250 per week per tech. $250 per week times 90 techs. You're laying out $22,500 per week for 52 weeks for a grand total of...
$1,170,000!
However, you're only bringing in $400,000 a year.
Let's not forget about paying server admins. You're not going to get those for $6.25 an hour. How about more like $75-$125 an hour?
We'll not even get into the fact that it is *very* unlikely that you're going to get 300 clients on a $79 box before your server loads go through the roof.
Just hypotheticals of course.
Man, you don't need 1 tech for 300 customers !! I have 60 clients and it takes me 10 minutes a day to handle support questions and all clients are happy. And once their site is going they don't submit support queries anymore. Noone has left me so far.
I have a site with 120.000 members and the support takes me 5 minutes a day and I am damn sure I can provide support for 10.000 people and the server administration is included in my 100 Dollar server. I do only set up accounts etc.0
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04-25-2004, 12:47 AM #33Temporarily Suspended
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Don`t you think this is a tad imature?
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04-25-2004, 12:47 AM #34Superhero
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Originally posted by taketo
I can provide support for 10.000 people and the server administration is included in my 100 Dollar server.Webmaster Forum • webmastertalk.net • Webmaster Community Forum
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04-25-2004, 12:50 AM #35Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by taketo
The big companies all have that kind of prices. Think of b-one.net which has 50000 clients at under a dollar and is powered by IBM.
Next, if you actually go to order their one dollar plan and go all the way to checkout, you're actually paying over $50 a year for 125 MB of space and 3 GB of transfer.www.square-network.com www.squarenetwork.com
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04-25-2004, 12:53 AM #36Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by taketo
Man, you don't need 1 tech for 300 customers !! I have 60 clients and it takes me 10 minutes a day to handle support questions and all clients are happy. And once their site is going they don't submit support queries anymore. Noone has left me so far.
I have a site with 120.000 members and the support takes me 5 minutes a day and I am damn sure I can provide support for 10.000 people and the server administration is included in my 100 Dollar server. I do only set up accounts etc.www.square-network.com www.squarenetwork.com
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04-25-2004, 12:58 AM #37Web Hosting Master
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Don't discourage him, when he closes up shop his clients will wisen up and we will get them!
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04-25-2004, 01:01 AM #38Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by taketo
One question, guys: How long do you think it will take until my business will be gone. Please let me know so I can remind you once the time is over.
Given your inablity to be humble, and your laughable statements (10,000 clients = little level of support), I'll give you a year tops.
Now if you actually humble yourself (yes this requires a certian level of wisdom and maturity), and listen to the hosts who have gone before you and learned the hard lessons, instead of being a know-it-all, then you might extend that beyond a year, and actually create a successful hosting operation.
Right now, you've been running a month, and have no idea but to think, server cost = $X/mth, so 300 clients @ $X/mth = business model. You'll learn that there's way more to it than that, and learn the hard way I think you must.• WLVPN.com • NetProtect owned White Label VPN provider •
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04-25-2004, 07:32 AM #39Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by taketo
Man, you don't need 1 tech for 300 customers !! I have 60 clients and it takes me 10 minutes a day to handle support questions and all clients are happy. And once their site is going they don't submit support queries anymore. Noone has left me so far.
I have a site with 120.000 members and the support takes me 5 minutes a day and I am damn sure I can provide support for 10.000 people and the server administration is included in my 100 Dollar server. I do only set up accounts etc.
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04-25-2004, 10:56 AM #40Newbie
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Ive been on WHT reading everything I possibly can about anything I possibly can about web hosting.
And Ive read more "hypathetical situations" than you could believe.
ie: "If I put 300 clients on a $79 server who pay an average of $4 a month I'll make $14400 a year from the server which costs $950 a year. That is quite good I think... 30 full servers and you make more than $400.000 a year."
Dont get me wrong im not complaining or anything, I think its hilarious. I have already learned a shitload of knowledge from these forums and im grateful. But people just like to think of what they could get or wish they had. But truth is im the same way, I found myself doing it the other day..
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04-25-2004, 11:19 AM #41Web Hosting Master
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I just want to know where to get 10,000 clients that never submit a support ticket?
Heck I got one guy that submits 2 a day just to ask which way the wind is blowing.0
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04-25-2004, 12:08 PM #42Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Techark
I just want to know where to get 10,000 clients that never submit a support ticket?
Heck I got one guy that submits 2 a day just to ask which way the wind is blowing.
How many hosts have we seen fold here once their 'fully managed' server has hardware problems? Or gets hacked?
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04-25-2004, 01:19 PM #43Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by thedavid
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04-25-2004, 01:38 PM #44Web Hosting Master
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04-25-2004, 03:43 PM #45Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by PCplayground
Sheesh David you are pretty harsh. Just because he can not think doesn't mean you have to dehumanize him.
I meant his plan, silly...Ion Web Services/TronicTech
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04-25-2004, 04:27 PM #46Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Techark
Heck I got one guy that submits 2 a day just to ask which way the wind is blowing.Clustered Hosting With Continuous Data Protection (CDP)
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04-25-2004, 05:10 PM #47Aspiring Evangelist
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He is so "confident" and arrogant with himself, but wont give us his url, wow sounds like a winner!
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04-25-2004, 05:15 PM #48Aspiring Evangelist
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Hey I think i figured out what his website is:
http://www.prackhost.com
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04-25-2004, 07:56 PM #49Junior Guru Wannabe
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If I put 300 clients on a $79 server who pay an average of $4 a month I'll make $14400 a year from the server which costs $950 a year. That is quite good I think... 30 full servers and you make more than $400.000 a year.YourDotComPeople.com Hosting And Web Design For Small Businesses!
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04-25-2004, 08:31 PM #50WHT Addict
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Originally posted by propcgamer
Hey I think i figured out what his website is:
http://www.prackhost.com
i found that from one of his other posts
That's him, he was asking about the computer graphic in the top left hand column in another thread.0