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    Arrow Shopping Carts

    Hello,

    I am looking for a FREE (open-source, if possible) shopping cart.

    I want something simple, because I will onyl be selling 6 products but in 20 different colors.

    I would like to keep the customers at our website while checking out and etc.

    We will integrate the cart into our web site layout, if we have to.

    I want something simple, thats gets the job done.

    Thanks

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    How about oscommerce? At least you can categorize them neatly.

    Or it also depends on your payment gateway.
    Say, if you are using paypal, you can just cut and paste the codes to fit into your website design (simple and neat). Now the paypal checkout page can also be customised. Though not within your site.

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    Hello,

    osCommerce is too advance for this site, I don't need that.

    PayPal: great method, but the only problem is - if the customer is not a member, then he has to sign and go through all that trouble.

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    I am planning to go for zen-cart which is much simpler and easy to download than oscommerce. Moreover its free and you can easily integrate it!

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    You mention you need something simpler than OSC. However, just stop a second and think quite how simple your going to go.

    If you get a solution that only checks your customers out, and takes their order, then your seriously missing out on a huge chunk of your online business.

    Make sure whatever you choose has a good Search Engine Statistics module, preferrably so that you can track where successful orders are coming from. Which products are they viewing? Makes a big difference in your evaluation of your sites information architecture.

    Can you quickly integrate banners? Special Offers? Featured products? Offer vouchers/coupons?

    Its easy to get e-commerce up and running but I can assure you without statistics to back you up on whats working and whats not, your advertising budget will be 5x + what it should be.

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    Hi ITS,

    Having experience with several shopping cart solutions, osCommerce may be a little overkill for you -

    Dan makes some excellent points above. There are several good smaller solutions out there that will address your needs.

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    try www.zen-cart.com

    seems fairly good.. especially for free.

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    I built a few based on mymarket. Go to sourceforge and do a search.

    You'll learn alot too.

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    As an osCommerce developer, let me let you in on a few things...

    Zen-Cart is basically a knock-off of osCommerce.
    The development team for Zen-Cart are all past osCommerce Team members and/or developers.

    Between the two, its really a toss-up. I'm more partial to osCommerce, but thats just me. Both are PHP/MySQL based and I would imagine both are the same to work with.

    Your mileage may vary.

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    Zen cart may be easier to config for you, but actually OScommerce is very easy too. + with all their add ons.

    When I first installed OScommrce 3 weeks or so ago, it was a real breeze incorporating it into my design. Just use the STS template system as an add on.

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    Question: Do you techies find that if you build an ecomm solution using php compared to asp that php is alot faster? If you are doing something from scratch for example?

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    Its all in the way the app is designed and written...

    A well thought out and designed script will outperform one done poorly - regardless of what it is written in... (for the most part)

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    I know you asked for an open source solution, but why? If you are intending to make money in your store, isn't it worth spending a few bucks on the store engine. I went through this several months ago and decided that although I know PHP and could implement OSCommerce, I don't want my commerce engine depending on a volunteer community to help me. I also found that I would have had to implement a large number of hacks to get it to square one. I ended up setting the bar at $500 or less for a commerce engine. After trying several of them, I ended up buying Sunshop which is only $99. Even though its a pretty robust cart, it is very simple to get going with and cusomize to fit your templates. Another one I liked, but was unable to get to work on my server (perl based) was ClickCartPro which is also $99. In the end I decided I wanted to be able to call on a company to help if my cart had problems.
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    Originally posted by UtopiaHost
    In the end I decided I wanted to be able to call on a company to help if my cart had problems.
    With small proprietary solutions you only have 1 company you can call on - If they go under, your financial and time commitments to that platform are wasted..

    Open Source applications allow you to preserve your intellectual and financial capital investment as the knowledge base is large and a single provider disappearing does not render you or your business without support, improvements, etc..

    Though I agree commercial applications have their benefits - you really need to go into the larger commercial applications to receive the benefits you are talking about (ie IBM Websphere Commerce) - but obviously, the price tag with these Tier 1 vendors really make the solutions unaffordable for the average small-medium business

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    Hi gargoyle,

    You seem to be a bit of a local whiz when it comes to e-comm solutions.

    Do you mind if I ask you what you consider to be *level 1 tier* e-comm solutions.

    What would you consider this to be: www.ebuyer.com? Do you have a rough idea how many manhours something like that would take to make? Eg. make from scratch ?

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    Hi Tanuk,

    Looks like a great site there...

    I consider (and I must apologize, I shouldnt use "Tier" as a level of assessment, it just causes confusion and leaves things open to interpretation) "tier 1" to be leaders in the industry - people with install bases in other "tier 1" companies. Basically, any company that can single handedly affect their respective major stock market index with news and occurances...

    These days, even these companies are not "guranteed" to be around in 1, 2 or 5 years, but the odds are better then smaller "boutique" shops.

    I consider tier 1 to be the IBM's, Dells, MS, CA, NA, etc, etc, etc...

    ebuyer.com is a really nice setup. I honestly cant say how many man hours went into that project without taking a look at the code and understanding the design and "foundation" - but, it is impressive (at least to me, which may or may not mean anything )

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    Do you have any inside knowledge of this cart? If I was to guess, I dont think it was created from scratch - but, just my guess....

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    Hi Tanuk,

    Your example is very good and well accepted. I know how much it will take to produce a solution as "ebuyer.com". Yes, there is a quantitative difference between this shopping cart and anything else what have been advertised on this thread. Good job!

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    You fine gentlemen I think are considering I am the author of that work.. no no I can't claim credit for this at all.

    I just know that someone liked this design and used it as an illustration of their aspirations.

    I thought to ask you chaps as I have noticed their are one or two of you here who I feel are kind of specialists in this field. ( I had a quick peep at your websites, very impressive indeed).

    I'm really actually asking to see if anybody would have any kind of guess.

    I have discovered something about E commerce. It is a very very specialist subject. I have many contacts with designers and programmers and invariable there are all various different stories and opinions with regard to e-comm.

    Let me just spit it out what I wanted to know.

    This is only a very *general* question.

    Would you think it is reasonable with regard to the following:

    1. If you made that type of style cart from scratch that you could spend about 1000 man hours on it *all inclusive, designer/programmer*

    2. If you used a reasonably customizable shopping cart out of the box solution you could reduce that figure somewhat.

    3. If you used a *really* customizable shopping cart out of hte box solution you could get that figure down further...

    Or would it actually not make much difference between 1/2/3

    Reason is that I have had some quite respected and actually quite knowledgable people tell me different opinions....

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    *garg* thanks for explaining, I do see what you mean, your talking about the big corporations. Your website looks rather corporate I must say very nice.

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    Hi Tanuk,

    Can you give us opinion about this one?
    http://opensolution-us.com
    Please, be sure to check all tabs "Shopping Cart", "e-Commerce", "Forums", etc.

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    I'll check it out and return with an e-opinion sir.

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    Hi,

    You can probably customize osCommerce to have the same look and feel of that site - ebuyer.com - with about 100-150 hours of work.

    The functionality is very similair and mostly cosmetic.

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    What about ASP solutions?...Anyone have any experience with a good, ASP shopping cart solution?

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    Originally posted by Veign
    What about ASP solutions?...Anyone have any experience with a good, ASP shopping cart solution?
    We have used http://www.spidersales.com in the past - been very please with them

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    Chris,

    I personally dont. But going with ASP/#C is really a question of going with an all windows/microsoft implementation. Its a bit of a lock-in and might have consequences down the road.

    I personally wouldnt mind seeing a Java/JSP implementation. This would open the roads to easier integration in the future.

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    That looks pretty good Corey.

    I guess questions I'd want to ask about any solution would be

    How flexible is the design (cosmetics)?

    How well is the design and business logic separated in the code?

    Does it meet all your business needs/processes?
    (i.e. computer shops need a mass import facility for lists they get from their distributors, others need shipping integration with a particular carrier)

    How flexible is the code/business logic to modify to suite your particular needs (things always have a way of coming up, i.e affiliates and coupons)?

    Can you make these changes or do you need constant developer support? and how much will these cost.

    What would be your platform costs and scaling options. Do you get hit with a 10K software license charge when you do?

    I suppose It comes down to your total cost of ownership, in terms of time, money, and most importantly, headaches!!

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    Originally posted by m8solutions
    That looks pretty good Corey.

    I guess questions I'd want to ask about any solution would be

    How flexible is the design (cosmetics)?

    How well is the design and business logic separated in the code?

    Does it meet all your business needs/processes?
    (i.e. computer shops need a mass import facility for lists they get from their distributors, others need shipping integration with a particular carrier)

    How flexible is the code/business logic to modify to suite your particular needs (things always have a way of coming up, i.e affiliates and coupons)?

    Can you make these changes or do you need constant developer support? and how much will these cost.

    What would be your platform costs and scaling options. Do you get hit with a 10K software license charge when you do?

    I suppose It comes down to your total cost of ownership, in terms of time, money, and most importantly, headaches!!
    I know the answers, but any one of them can be construed as violation of the rules of this Forum. I submitted ticket to moderator to clarify this issue - I am still novice to this forum.

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    I do most of my programming around MS products so ASP / ASP.NET solutions are far more preferred for me..

    I will look into the suggestions offered

    Thanx

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    Originally posted by m8solutions
    That looks pretty good Corey.

    I guess questions I'd want to ask about any solution would be

    How flexible is the design (cosmetics)?

    How well is the design and business logic separated in the code?

    Does it meet all your business needs/processes?
    (i.e. computer shops need a mass import facility for lists they get from their distributors, others need shipping integration with a particular carrier)

    How flexible is the code/business logic to modify to suite your particular needs (things always have a way of coming up, i.e affiliates and coupons)?

    Can you make these changes or do you need constant developer support? and how much will these cost.

    What would be your platform costs and scaling options. Do you get hit with a 10K software license charge when you do?

    I suppose It comes down to your total cost of ownership, in terms of time, money, and most importantly, headaches!!
    You can run it on MSSQL - no problems. Most of our clients are pretty small but I have not had any complaints with them. The developers will make changes for you at a moderate fee & you are able to make changes as well. At least they have never told me not to.

    They have a lot of templates on there that you can see how customizable it is.

    Originally posted by pnorilsk
    I know the answers, but any one of them can be construed as violation of the rules of this Forum. I submitted ticket to moderator to clarify this issue - I am still novice to this forum.

    Peter KInev.
    Well as long as you are not affiliate with Spider Sales, it should not be against the TOS.

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    I think, oscommerce or something smiar. I thing that you can modify oscommerce

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    Originally posted by ITSconcepts
    PayPal: great method, but the only problem is - if the customer is not a member, then he has to sign and go through all that trouble. [/B]
    itsconcepts: actually, we changed that requirement earlier this year for US-based sellers. if the seller has "PayPal Account Optional" feature set on, the buyer (US or non-US) no longer has to signup for website payments. more info here:
    https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-gin/we...anding-outside

    note: the buyer signup requirement is still in place if the seller has a non-US account.... however, by the end of the year we hope to remove that restriction as well.
    - Dave McClure
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    Originally posted by PayPalGeek
    itsconcepts: actually, we changed that requirement earlier this year for US-based sellers. if the seller has "PayPal Account Optional" feature set on, the buyer (US or non-US) no longer has to signup for website payments.
    Glad to see you Again Dave!
    ^_^

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    sorry if i've been absent overly-long... i try and scan this forum and a few others at least once every other week, along with pbreit. still, sometimes it's hard to keep up -- WHT and SitePoint posters are a prolific bunch

    one other point i should mention: you're not limited to a choice between PayPal and other carts -- although we do have a basic free shopping cart for folks, PayPal also works as a processor option for either credit cards or PayPal payments in most of the other shopping carts out there (osCommerce, MonsterCommerce, Americart, Miva, LaGarde, 1ShoppingCart, 3D3 ShopFactory, etc etc).
    - Dave McClure
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