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    Top 10 Network Backbone List?

    Hello,

    I would like to hear everyones views on backbone providers lately, and I think the best way to do this would be if eveyone one could make a top 10+ list. Here is mine, hopefully people will follow in:

    1.MCI
    2.AT&T
    3.GLBX
    4.Sprint
    5.Level3
    6.MFN
    7.Qwest
    8.XO
    9.Cogent
    10.Verio
    11.ALGX
    12.Time Warner
    13.Wintel

    I think thats how I would order mine, how would you order yours, and why?

    Thank you,
    Kyle Leissner

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    depends - is this global or us only?

    if global you forgot some big ones - telia, pcwbtn, reach etc.
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    Internap, uunet, etc
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    I want US and Global if possible.

    Thank you,
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    you forgot WCG
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    Ton tep base on what metrics? I can do alphabetically easily
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    The topic is "Top 10 Backbones".


    InterNAP does not own nor operate a backbone. They only buy transit.

    UUnet *is* MCI.

    WCG = Williams Communications Group. WCG *is* Wiltel.

    Globally you forgot British Telecom, France Telecom, Cable&Wireless, Singtel, Teleglobe.

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    Deutsche Telekom definately belongs in the list somewhere as well. They are a substantial traffic sink, though they are not transit-free. Depending on your criteria, ATDN should be listed as well. You can purchase private peering to them, and if you have typical hosting traffic, around 10% of your egress traffic is probably bound for ATDN customers. Telstra is worth mentioning as well, even if they only have a monopoly on one continent ...
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    Dragoon got me on that one, I didnt feel like spelling out Wiltel... easier to just do WCG... 3 letters vs 6...
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    Wow... Cogent made number 9 ;-)

    Did you mean a top 10 list without respect to quality? Or an ordered list based on various criteria (which are)?

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    Hmm, I thought about Deutsche Telekom but left them off the list because they seem to be focused more on acquiring than building. In the US DT owns Voicestream/T-Mobile. They buy transit from Sprint. DT was in negotiations to buy Qwest but took one look at the company's books and ran, er, walked away. Funny thing is that DT also rejected a bid to by MCI because of "financial discrepencies" that were discovered. MCI was later bought by Worldcom for 4x the price.

    ATDN would fit the list but doesn't sell transit, AFAIK, so I left them off.

    Others to consider would be Globix, Broadwing, ELI, SBC Global, Savvis, and IDT.
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    Perhaps we first sort them out by region.

    World vs US.

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    Re: Top 10 Network Backbone List?

    Originally posted by KyleLC23

    13.Wintel
    Did you mean wiltel? If so.. I agree with that particular choice.

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    I would put Level3 as number two after MCI
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    For a top 10 network Backbone list shouldn't they have a backbone? Guess that eliminates InterNAP :-)

    Originally posted by thelinuxguy
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    Couple changes, XO owns ALGX. Then what about Savvis/C&W? I would also put Level3 and Sprint above AT&T and GBLX. I would also put Time Warner and verio ahead of Cogent, in that order.
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    Guys,

    This is just my opinion on who I like based on speed, performance, price, sales reps, and support. I was hoping that eveyone would make their own list instead of lecture me about mine.

    Thanks,
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    That is the reason why you need to specify what metrics to use.
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    Sorry about that then,

    Will everyone one make a top ten list for best backbone providers based on speeds.

    Thanks, Kyle

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    How about a backbone that has amazing speeds but bad packet loss, poor uptime records and lousy support?

    All these things should be included, not just *one* "metric".
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    Mod,

    Please delete this thread if possible.

    Thank you,
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    I'll just add my list, for fun...

    1. MCI
    2. Level(3)
    3. Sprint
    4. Savvis/C&W (Need more time as a single company to move up)
    5. AT&T
    6. GLBX
    7. MFN
    8. Time Warner
    9. XO (Let's see if the purchase of Allegiance helps any)
    10. Verio
    11. Qwest
    12. Wiltel (Would have been under Cogent, but seem to be improving)
    13. Cogent
    14. Hurricane Electric (Just added them to have someone under Cogent since COgent isn't THAT bad, especially for the price, outside of California and maybe NYC or DC HE is horrid, from my testing.)
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