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[kyriakos]

how difficult is it to manage a server without a control panel? I do have the basic linux knowledge as a user but not much at the admin level. should I just go for CPanel?

[michaelfoo]

how difficult is it to manage a server without a control panel? I do have the basic linux knowledge as a user but not much at the admin level. should I just go for CPanel?

If you have the knowledge as a Linux user in using terminal mode, managing the server is easy for you. Otherwise, I would suggest you not to try it yourself if you are going for a production server.

Free control panel like Webmin does simplify the managing work, but it isn't a good panel for production server. cPanel is still the preferred choice.

Thanks.

[athlonkmf]

Yes, it's possible. I've setupped my server with no control panels at all. I installed webmin, but never used it. removed it now, so there is one process less

Currently i'm writing a "control panel" myself to add virtual users with quota.

In linux is everything possible, you just need to read a LOT!

If you have very basic knowledge of linux, you can expect to use the first month up on setting it up. Then a control panel might be cheaper...

[gilbert]

In linux is everything possible, you just need to read a LOT!

A WHOLE LOT


but once you get some concepts down packed hard your golden

[athlonkmf]

what I actually hate about linux is that there is not ONE documentation or ONE way to do things. The freedom of choices also means a exponential amount of reading needed...

[kyriakos]

I was thinking of getting one of those dirt-cheap managed.com servers since it has no setup fee or contract I can play around for a while and see what I can manage to get done with it.

[KarlZimmer]

Why in the world does everyone jump straight to cPanel?? Ensim, Plesk, and DirectAdmin are all great control panels as well, and all are a good deal cheaper. I honestly think Plesk 7 is much better than cPanel and the list price for an unlimited license is about half the list price of a fully owned cPanel license.

[kyriakos]

maybe cause most providers offer cpanel by default..

[KarlZimmer]

Most providers just offer cPanel? Let's see, EV1 just started offering cPanel and still offers Plesk and Ensim at lower rates than cPanel. ServerMatrix offers Plesk and cPanel, 1&1 uses Plesk 7, Interland uses Plesk, ServerBeach uses Plesk, and RackSpace.com uses Plesk. I believe I've listed many of the big names in this industry and I'm failing to see how cPanel is dominant in offerings, but it seems to be the most requested, I just don't get it. The only providers I can think of that solely use cPanel are Nocster and Managed.com

Note: I know I didn't list everyone, but I listed the two most popular budget server providers, the world's largest hosting provider, and one of the US's largest hosting providers.

[Boost]

Originally posted by KarlZimmer
Why in the world does everyone jump straight to cPanel?? Ensim, Plesk, and DirectAdmin are all great control panels as well, and all are a good deal cheaper. I honestly think Plesk 7 is much better than cPanel and the list price for an unlimited license is about half the list price of a fully owned cPanel license.

simple,, my self i offer what most of my clients ask.

99% of my clients asks for cpanel so why should i offer them some thing else.

[ispclub.com]

I would go for a control panel if you arent fully sure of yourself to manage a server. It will just make your life easier.

More people request Cpanel because of how user friendly it is

Plesk is more stable though

[kyriakos]

I'll go cpanel after all

[gilbert]

isnt it all about the money

[ranjitbhar]

kyriakos if you are just planning to host your own sites, I think so you can get away without any control panel, but when you have users they demand it.

I recently got a server from managed.com dont have any damm control panel on it, I just knew some basics of Unix worked on it 5 years ago, I had to do a lot of reading 2-3 days (spent around 18 hrs/per day on the comp) to set things right, but now things are fine and my sites work great without any control panel!

[athlonkmf]

Originally posted by ranjitbhar
kyriakos if you are just planning to host your own sites, I think so you can get away without any control panel, but when you have users they demand it.

I recently got a server from managed.com dont have any damm control panel on it, I just knew some basics of Unix worked on it 5 years ago, I had to do a lot of reading 2-3 days (spent around 18 hrs/per day on the comp) to set things right, but now things are fine and my sites work great without any control panel!

You did it faster than I did then
I have lotsa experience with linux (but it's with Gentoo) and it took me two weeks.

Well, actually, setting the site up took me a day or two, but tweaking and configuring it took a lot of time. Being used to gentoo, i wanted to tweak that debianserver to the best performance/stability-config.
After doing a lot of tweaking I managed to get a 400% boost in performance from the standard install. (based on my forum's load-information)

Very happy with it, and didn't need a control panel, which means that there is one less process hogging valuable memory.