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  1. #1
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    New Nocster Bandwidth?

    Looks like Nocster has added PCCWBTN bandwidth to their current mix.
    [email protected] [~]# traceroute pccwbtn.net
    traceroute to pccwbtn.net (63.218.3.250), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
    1 ge-6-0-core.scr1.hostnoc.net (66.96.192.1) 0.265 ms 0.328 ms 0.357 ms
    2 66.197.191.46 (66.197.191.46) 4.603 ms 4.620 ms 4.606 ms
    3 ge3-0.2.cr01.phl02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.31.5) 4.737 ms 5.079 ms 4.982 ms
    So now they have XO, Cogent, Verio, and PCCWBTN. Good sign for Asian users.

    -Josh

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    Good!

    TraceRoute - Monday, April 19, 2004 12:09:41
    Generated by CyberKit Version 2.5
    Copyright 1996-2000 by Luc Neijens

    Address: sixto.red7.net
    Number of Packets: 1
    Packet size: 64
    Trace Hop 1 through 64
    Timeout: 5
    Resolve Addresses: Yes
    Don't Fragment: No

    #1 stgo-ip1.adsl.ifxnw.cl (200.73.29.1): TTL Exceeded, ttl=64, 31 ms
    #2 clsclnoc7206x1.ifxcore.net (216.241.0.6): TTL Exceeded, ttl=254, 32 ms
    #3 Unavailable (200.62.6.66): TTL Exceeded, ttl=253, 125 ms
    #4 ser5-0.2.ar01.mia01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.11.21): TTL Exceeded, ttl=252, 156 ms
    #5 pos2-0.cr01.phl02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.30.33): TTL Exceeded, ttl=247, 172 ms
    #6 hostnoc.ge3-0.2.cr01.phl02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.31.6): TTL Exceeded, ttl=247, 172 ms
    #7 ge-7-0-ctsi.rtr0.scra1.hostnoc.net (66.197.191.45): TTL Exceeded, ttl=247, 156 ms

    Statistics: Out 7, in 7, loss 0%, times (min/avg/max) 31/130/172 ms
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    Wow, that's a pretty direct route. What were you pinging Nocster at before the change?

    -Josh

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    Thats a very nice bandwidth provider. I used to get 26 hops from my isp now its only 17
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    Re: New Nocster Bandwidth?

    Originally posted by Joshua
    Looks like Nocster has added PCCWBTN bandwidth to their current mix.So now they have XO, Cogent, Verio, and PCCWBTN. Good sign for Asian users.

    -Josh
    What happened to Global Crossing?

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    They were having some issues with the fact that they were picking up Global Crossing in NYC, having it go to PHL, and then to Scranton. They didn't have redundancy (dual routers or fiber) on the NYC-PHL route, and there were some issues, so they scrapped it for the time being. Not sure if they're eventually bringing it back in through Philly or not.

    -Josh

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    Sweet, MainArea looking more attractive to get my first dedicated from

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    9 Hops from west coast here
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    1 26 ms 107 ms 23 ms 24.82.184.1
    2 26 ms 29 ms 29 ms rd1bb-ge3-0.vc.shawcable.net [64.59.154.130]
    3 53 ms 29 ms 29 ms rc1bb-pos15-0.vc.shawcable.net [66.163.69.70]
    4 32 ms 29 ms 29 ms rc1wt-pos2-2.wa.shawcable.net [66.163.76.54]
    5 30 ms 30 ms 28 ms ge3-0.cr02.sea01.pccwbtn.net [198.32.180.13]
    6 105 ms 106 ms 108 ms pos2-0.cr01.phl02.pccwbtn.net [63.218.30.33]
    7 105 ms 107 ms 105 ms hostnoc.ge3-0.2.cr01.phl02.pccwbtn.net [63.218.31.6]
    8 108 ms 107 ms 107 ms ge-7-0-ctsi.rtr0.scra1.hostnoc.net [66.197.191.45]
    9 112 ms 113 ms 113 ms 6696192220.hostnoc.net [66.96.192.220]

    Great Indeed
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  10. #10
    Still running through Cogent here (just south of Philly);

    4 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms pos-7-2-cr01.torresdale.pa.core.comcast.net [68.
    87.19.209]
    5 13 ms 12 ms 11 ms 12.118.114.9
    6 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms tbr2-p012301.phlpa.ip.att.net [12.123.137.66]
    7 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms tbr1-cl9.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.2.85]
    8 19 ms 20 ms 18 ms ggr1-p360.abnva.ip.att.net [12.123.217.1]
    9 18 ms 20 ms 23 ms p11-1.pr01.iad01.atlas.psi.net [154.54.11.113]
    10 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms p1-1.core01.dca01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.1.1
    85]
    11 23 ms 24 ms 24 ms p4-0.core01.phl01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.18
    ]
    12 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms g7.ba21.b003003-1.phl01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.1
    12.34.138]
    13 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms BurstNet.demarc.cogentco.com [38.112.11.122]
    14 28 ms 27 ms 28 ms ge-7-0-ctsi.rtr0.scra1.hostnoc.net [66.197.191.4
    5]
    15 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms 6696192225.hostnoc.net [66.96.192.225]

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    Hmm, they havnt made any official announcements on this yet, I'd wait on their say first
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    Watcher - Comcast is still big with their ATT connection, and ATT has been offloading a lot of traffic to PSI/Cogent lately (at least with Comcast traffic). You do have to remember that Comcast's only connection is ATT (they used to tie in with the Comcast Business network, but not anymore from what I can see).
    I've been seeing ATT -> Cogent a LOT in my traces from home for many providers, not just Burst.

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    Originally posted by Hoobastank68
    Hmm, they havnt made any official announcements on this yet, I'd wait on their say first
    I spoke Dan (VP of Burst) earlier, and he said that the official announcement will be made shortly.

    -Josh

  14. #14
    When I am tracing to any of the following;
    Nac
    Fluidhosting
    ServInt
    Gnax
    Rusko.us
    I don't see any Cogent at all, just when tracing to Burst...

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    Watcher - I don't think any of those have Cogent, or at least not a large amount of Cogent. NAC has a Cogent link, but they also have a direct link to ATT, so it doesn't matter. EV1 goes over Cogent or Williams for me (keeps changing). Either way, Cogent isn't a bad thing in this case - just check the speeds. I'm nearly maxing out my 3Mbps connection downloading a speed test (getting 2.8Mbps).

    I get an average ping of 50ms to ServInt (ATT -> Cent - >GNAPS), but only 30ms to ZubrCom in Equinix Ashburn (ATT -> GBLX -> nLayer) from home. Routes, speeds, and pings will be different on every connection across the country. The good thing about BTN is that it has direct peering with many cable companies, including Rogers and Shaw, as well as AOL, ALGX, Telia, KPN, Tiscali, Broadwing, BellSouth, MSN, NAC, and many others. They also have peering in Equinix Ashburn & San Jose (I think that's SJO). Either way, PCCWBTN is here to stay & is looking great from Burst.

    - Matt

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    I wasn't commenting on the quality of Cogent, just that I don't see it in any routes except to Burst. EV1 runs through Williams for me so I don't see it there either.

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    I am a fan of BtN bandwidth, very little hops and great bandwidth!

    Sounds like a great news to nocster clients.

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    Wow I am near London, Ontario (Canada =D ) and I use to ping 40 to burst now I ping like almost 100

    ====================================
    Tracing route to burst.net [66.96.192.201]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1
    2 * * * Request timed out.
    3 10 ms 9 ms 44 ms gw03.lndn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.90.6
    5]
    4 * * * Request timed out.
    5 10 ms 14 ms 12 ms gw01.strfrd.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.81
    .82]
    6 11 ms 12 ms 11 ms gw01.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.81
    .78]
    7 12 ms 21 ms 12 ms gw01.ktchnr.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.81
    .106]
    8 13 ms 11 ms 12 ms gw01.glph.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.81.8
    6]
    9 12 ms 24 ms 15 ms gw01.hnsn.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.81.9
    0]
    10 18 ms 13 ms 17 ms gw02.mtnk.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.81.6
    1]
    11 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms gw02.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80
    .157]
    12 14 ms 16 ms 34 ms gw02.bloor.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80.
    5]
    13 36 ms 20 ms 48 ms gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80.133
    ]
    14 61 ms 62 ms 60 ms igw01.chcrmk.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.8
    1.190]
    15 65 ms 61 ms 58 ms ge3-1.br01.chc01.pccwbtn.net [63.218.5.5]
    16 91 ms 91 ms 106 ms pos2-0.cr01.phl02.pccwbtn.net [63.218.30.33]
    17 92 ms 100 ms 94 ms hostnoc.ge3-0.2.cr01.phl02.pccwbtn.net [63.218.3
    1.6]
    18 94 ms 96 ms 94 ms ge-7-0-ctsi.rtr0.scra1.hostnoc.net [66.197.191.4
    5]
    19 96 ms 97 ms 95 ms burst.net [66.96.192.201]

    Trace complete.
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    Jaali - I had customer also using Rogers who complained about that too. It seems that Rogers gives priority to their BTN routes, which takes a toll on latency. Submit a ticket to Burst so that they can check things out with BTN, who could possibly fix the issue between them & Rogers.

    - Matt

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    congrats, looks nice! BTN rocks
    In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.

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    what's hops and why PCCWBTN bandwidth is good for asian area? thanks.

  22. #22
    Great news.

  23. #23
    Interesting information. Hope this will appreciate all clients

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    6 219.93.173.35 (219.93.173.35) 75.946 ms 2.791 ms 3.601 ms
    7 219.93.171.26 (219.93.171.26) 205.334 ms 209.833 ms 204.774 ms
    8 ge4-1.cr02.sjo01.pccwbtn.net (206.223.116.48) 209.903 ms 206.098 ms 205.693 ms
    9 pos5-1.cr01.chc01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.6.38) 272.595 ms 267.716 ms 268.638 ms
    10 pos5-0.cr02.nyc02.pccwbtn.net (63.216.4.37) 440.155 ms 441.048 ms 436.952 ms
    11 pos2-0.cr01.phl02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.30.33) 435.397 ms 463.759 ms 458.432 ms
    12 hostnoc.ge3-0.2.cr01.phl02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.31.6) 429.412 ms 436.468 ms 479.692 ms
    13 ge-7-0-ctsi.rtr0.scra1.hostnoc.net (66.197.191.45) 459.756 ms 442.650 ms 449.099 ms
    14 6696192220.hostnoc.net (66.96.192.220) 470.226 ms 473.376 ms 461.992 ms
    Global Compass - Cyberwurx
    5 202.188.126.132 (202.188.126.132) 4.085 ms 2.908 ms 3.226 ms
    6 219.93.173.35 (219.93.173.35) 2.870 ms 2.960 ms 3.126 ms
    7 219.93.171.26 (219.93.171.26) 204.752 ms 205.015 ms 204.503 ms
    8 ge4-1.cr02.sjo01.pccwbtn.net (206.223.116.48) 205.633 ms 205.754 ms 206.620 ms
    9 pos5-1.cr02.atl01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.22.38) 266.988 ms 266.506 ms 266.930 ms
    10 globalcompass.ge3-0.3.cr02.atl01.pccwbtn.net (63.216.31.134) 268.902 ms 267.083 ms 269.997 ms
    11 ge-3-2-atl1-ag1.globalcompass.com (66.154.95.195) 266.828 ms 268.609 ms 267.139 ms
    That's why I love CyberWurx But problem might occur @ PCCW level since latency spike at BtN area.

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    Originally posted by fuse1982
    what's hops and why PCCWBTN bandwidth is good for asian area? thanks.
    Because PCCW is a Hong Kong-based company and the main hub is in Hong Kong too. Many traffic flows through Hong Kong and to other Southeast Asian countries

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    can't locate any press-release or sth. on their site, forums or anywhere else yet...
    is it official that they brought in BTN now, or are they just testing or sth. ?!
    In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.

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    You'd have better luck contacting them about this.
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    Originally posted by BiGWill
    can't locate any press-release or sth. on their site, forums or anywhere else yet...
    is it official that they brought in BTN now, or are they just testing or sth. ?!
    It's official. You don't just test out bandwidth providers on full Gig-E commits It has replaced Verio, and as far as I know at this point, they'll be bringing back Level3 soon. They're also thinking about bringing Global Crossing in PHL, but they're just speculating on that now.

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    sounds promising
    btw. a local university got sth. in the range of a gig-e from Telia for a month for free - they wanted to convince them to buy transit from them, as the university was in need of a new provider. Guess what? They succeeded... the university signed up with them after their free month!
    In just two days, tomorrow will be yesterday.

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    Originally posted by BiGWill
    sounds promising
    btw. a local university got sth. in the range of a gig-e from Telia for a month for free - they wanted to convince them to buy transit from them, as the university was in need of a new provider. Guess what? They succeeded... the university signed up with them after their free month!
    Universities are slightly different that dedicated server providers. They'll be using a LOT more upload than download (since students mostly download things & don't run servers), which can be beneficial to peering arrangements & the likes (not sure on specifics, I don't do networking).

    - Matt

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