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  1. #1
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    Any good and uncovered payment provider (Non-US)?

    I keep hearing stories about paysystems, 2CO, paypal and etc.

    Any good alternative that has low charges and operate very well in the Europe and Asia region?

    Especially that are not yet discovered but are providing excellent service.

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    What do you mean by low charges?
    (IE cheaper than paypal or ?)

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    I would mean low monthly charges

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    Hmmm . Well not exactly in the "undiscovered" category but ikoboo .

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    We tried Ikobooobo or what ever their called for one day and lost 2 sales because people just coulnt be bothered to go through the hassle.

    You want a payment solution that you just enter your name / address / card details hit a button and be done!

    I personally can't even sign up a paypal account because of some silly reason they give.

    A suggestion would be go to www.google.com and type in "credit card merchant accounts" filter out the American stuff and there's your list!.

    Hope this helps.

    G

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    i shall try it out.

    any other suggestions?
    I have an email from ecommerce service UK this morning.
    Any one use them or heard of them before?
    www.ecs-world.com

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    Anyone used the two by icedemon?

    Just to see how's the service is like

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    I havent used verotel but I used one of their predecessors (I believe) verza .

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    so any comments on verza and how's it different from the other accounts in the market?

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    Verza was a tad bit pricey, as for support I didnt have much call to use it , but if I can remeber correctly (and this is a couple of years back) it was ok.

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    1. ECS if that's what was used to be ECS Offshore or something - forget it.
    They owe so much money to webmasters it's plain beyond beleif.

    Really terrible ****ers. Because we deal with high risk (adult , gaming) accounts as well I basicly know most of those people.

    Stay as far as possible out of ECS.

    2. Charge2000 & Verotel - both good companies, but suitable really for adult sites only. In my opinion Verotel is much more stable than Charge2000.

    One of the most stable non US third party billers.
    But in low risk that's not the best option because Dutch acquiring banks are way too high priced in comparison with UK or Germany.

    Basicly You wont get a lower discount fee from Dutch banks than 3% witha normal fee of 4%, so add up that PSP also needs to earn something and You get way too much.

    3. With the exception of self promotion I'd also suggest to look into UK based PSPs. WorldPay is a good choice as well I think.

    Wonder if anyone had experience with Barclays EPDq, must be good as well.

    Also since You aksed for non covered options, check these dudes out:
    www.metacharge.com
    I dont see too many ads of them, they pretty much seem to be happy with their existing clientelle but they seem to be very serious. Work with Barclays Merchant Services.

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    Thanks for both comments. That's what I am thinking. When they are associated with high risk sites (e.g. adult or gambling), they have alot of reasons to push their luck to their side.

    I will take a look at metacharge and see if that's a good alternative to all the "established" ones.

    Worldpay is just too expensive to present to start-ups and Barclays too.

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    Not really. It's just that when they do high risk acquiring banks they work with usually will have ugly options for low risk and in stupid case they place at the same merchant account - than THAT is really dangerous.

    If they separate it (like us) per different acquirers - it doesnt matter.

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    Scar- Thanks for the info.

    I have read your site and am just wondering what makes chronopay a better choice than other competitors? I am just being curious.

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    Scar - How do you know Veritol use a Dutch bank?

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