Last night, the computer was acting up, stuff froze, etc. So I rebooted. Now it won't go past the Windows XP loading screen (with the progress bar on the bottom). It just sits there endlessly. I turned it off and used the safemode option, just to find out that it hangs on mup.sys, as it's the last file on the screen to be loaded. (Later I learned that it wasn't mup.sys that was to blame, but what happened after it's called). A quick search revealed this thread. I tried most of the quick fixes people had. Taking out all USB components, resetting ESCD, setting BIOS to default. None of those worked. Today I will be trying some of the more radical ones, such as taking out my video card, taking out RAM sticks, etc. However, assuming that the opinion of most in the thread was right, this is some kind of power issue that leads to a windows issue. For nobody did reformatting help, so don't suggest that. Some said that changing the PSU helped, but I really don't think there's a point to that in my 4 year old PC. (Still my main PC). But right now, nothing works, and I've got a bad feeling that this computer (my main and best one) is dead. I don't have the money to buy a new one, or even build one. I had all of my files there, important files, and my sister and dad did too. Of course if I ever get a new computer, I can take the hard drive out of this one and just plug it in as a slave and it will work right? I hope so... I can't lose my files or theirs. I stayed up till 4:30 last night fixing this, to no avail. I really, don't know what to do. I CAN'T afford a new computer, especially right now. My parents can't either so don't even ask. I am right now on my secondary PC on the network, a 333Mhz Pentium 2. I can't use this as my primary PC. Please help and offer advice.
HP Pavilion from about 4 years ago.
Athlon 1Ghz (runs at 993)
384MB RAM (one 256MB and one 128 MB)
everything else is on the mobo, except for the crappy Geforce 2 MX 64MB PCI Graphics card.
ARGH I JUST FEEL LIKE PUNCHING THE CRAP OUT OF THE WALL!!! This is so bad for right now....
Ok, you just need to "Repair" Windows XP, so grab your CD and shove it into your drive, follow the instructions to get to the screen, and it's all good!
If you can't repair it using the repair console, then just install it over the current copy, and reassign your files etc to yourself.
I think you didn't check the thread, or even read my post. It's NOT a windows isssue in that sense. Reformats DON'T help, thus reinstalls won't either. As well, I can't find my WinXP CD, but from what I've read, it wont load that either.
I highly highly doubt this is a virus or even a software issue. Did you guys even read the link I posted? It seems it has to do with the power. I'll be using knoppix as soon as I can find the CD.
Nope, no tweaking. Haven't changed any hardware in about a year.
I see. We used to have unstable power, our pc would freeze, or restart. I recommend getting a ups backup battery system. It can save you pc during spikes too. It is very much worth $50 (thats what mine costed).
Only one issue with that solution. I have no USB 2.0 card. Plus, if it's a power supply issue, that would make sense, as USB draws power from the PSU. Well here's a semi-update. Knoppix is attempting to run.
OK. Knoppix works... but that doesn't mean much. It could be a hardware issue, something with the RAM, or other things that windows would have trouble with that knoppix wouldn't.
FYI, I did lose it, not pirate it. Second of all, that would be the case, assuming that mup.sys was at fault. According to most first hand things I've read (seems that people who say what you said are always the people who don't actually have the problem), MUP.sys isn't to blame, and disablingit doesn't help. It's actually what happens right then. Apparently. Maybe it is mup's fault, I really don't know. I'll look for WinXP, I know its somewhere around here.
Xshare buddy, sorry to hear that.
If knoppix works however, now is the time to backup all of your files.
Transfer them to CD's or your second computer.
Then format your HD, and install windows again. (you have to find that CD, sorry)
Personally it sounds like a windows issue to me not a hardware one, and this wouldnt be the first time that windows misperforming will fool unsuspected people into thinking that their hardware is bad and upgrading when there is no need.
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I don't have a network PC with nearly enough space to take most of my files, and I can't burn to CD because knoppix is in the CD drive. I have backed them up to my backup drive though. I'm still searching for the CD, though. According to more independent posts I've read, it seems like something the do with the power supply. The reason it works for different people different solutions, is because they all modify the power in some way, like if you take out a ram chip, or a card, or the USB card, etc. That makes alot of sense, but either way, no harm in checking with the winXP cd to see if he's right. Assuming i find it.
Yet another update: Knoppix can't move my files to my backup HDD, it says it can't create the directory. I tried creating it manually, no dice. So back to step one, but still in knoppix.
Thanks for the help, but my dad doesn't want me to use anything he doesn't trust. Anyways, still no luck with the XP CD. I'll call my friend and ask him to bring his over so I can run the recovery thing.
Originally posted by Joseph_M You DO need to put your Windows XP CD in, go to recovery console, login and type
MUP Is used to connect to Novell network systems. You probably won't be using it any time soon.
If you don't have your WinXP CD, then its your fault for losing it/pirating windows.
Well update: found my WinXP CD, but that fix doesnt work. I got to the recovery console, (nothing about logging in), tried to type in disable mup and disable mup.sys but it said something about the registry not knowing those values or something?
Xshare.. dont listen to that crap you read in the other thread.
This is completely a windows issue and you do not need to replace any hardware.
1. Boot from WinXP CD
2. Install WinXP over the old one
[There is an option to install without erasing the data]
(and it works.. ive done it at least 4 times)
3. Install any programs you need.
Most programs will run, but some need registry keys and such, so be sure to re-install those.. and dont forget about DRIVERS!
Dont use the WinXP Repair util. It really never works.
I agree with JYC...sounds like a RAM issue to me also. I never really thought RAM went bad until I had two sticks go bad in the last year. Bad ram=general protection faults, lockups especially when opening applications, and random restarts. If you have a spare stick to troubleshoot with, I suggest you do it.
Originally posted by meanpc I agree with JYC...sounds like a RAM issue to me also. I never really thought RAM went bad until I had two sticks go bad in the last year. Bad ram=general protection faults, lockups especially when opening applications, and random restarts. If you have a spare stick to troubleshoot with, I suggest you do it.
Wow... classic case of the Jinx. My computer never randomly restarted, you post this, and suddenly it's done it 4 times today already. That's just not cool. Anyways, I'm running Memtest 86+ to test. (I think that's the best memory checker out there). It's been going on for almost 20 minutes now, and is still at 41% of the first stick, so let's see what happens. (And it was just as I was putting the finishing touches on a 4 page tutorial I wrote, good thing I saved).
I hope it's just the ram, and not the power supply or cooling.