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    Suspious Google Adsense ads

    I've ran into 2 hosting companies in google adsense and I know some of the WHT is good at researching into these companies so I thought I would post them up.

    http://www.un-host.com

    the site above was just recently 2004-03-03 it could be a new host together or another one returning under a different name. What made me suspious with this company is the "lastest news". It says they just recently upgrade to MYSQL 4.0.15 and offers full backups now. If they are using Cpanel these backups would already be enabled and usually if you buy a server from ServerMatrix they usually have MYSQL 4.0.15 already upgraded.

    02-26-2004 1:17 AM
    To improve our service to our clients we have now introduced a full backup service full backup twice a week.

    02-19-2004 1:02 PM
    Upgraded MySQL to version

    How on earth could they upgrade the they're services if they haven't registered the domain until a few weeks later

    nuportalcity
    http://www.nuportalcity.com
    http://www.nuportalcity.com/?source=google_uband

    The site above offers unlimited bandwidth. You know this is an outright lie and yet it decieves people to think they can use however much bandwidth they want. It seems they are on a T3 which isn't unlimited bandwidth! I think google really needs to do a background check on companies that advertise in they're services. They won't allow google adsense on adult-content related sites, but they allow suspious companies to advertise in they're company.
    Kerry Jones

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    whois.sc sais there are 93 websites hosted on that ip, so they are ether resellers or clone of some website or recently changed domain name. so it is probably legit host

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    The problem is, Google dont know any better than you or i on the background of these companies.

    Google is there to help ANY company advertise their services and as long as they pay its nothing to do with google.

    You honestly cant expect google to go around and evaluate companies on what they offer and what they dont... Google doesnt only deal with webhosting, it deals with EVERY SINGLE THING you can imagine... advertising on its networks... to bring out policies for them all would be very very long winded and even then sites would pass through.

    A filtering process would need to be done a little more up top than that, such as a Web Host Watchdog, that would be great and help honest web hosting get its reputation back again.

    The UK now has OFCOM Instead of OFTEL which was Office of telecommunications, Isnt the internet a communication service and thus, OFCOM (Office of Communications) have some sort of say over webhosting? If not, why not? lol .. Hopefully soon we will have some sort of industry regulator to weed out the fools that you have named and shamed

    Hope this slightly helps

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    Re: Suspious Google Adsense ads

    Originally posted by Kerry Jones
    They won't allow google adsense on adult-content related sites, but they allow suspious companies to advertise in they're company.
    Why shouldn't Google allow such ads?

    It's a commercial entity, making profit, selling ads. It;s not a moral filter for the greater good of a fully democratic self-policing ethically responsible internet.

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    Well, I would like to point out that "Unlimited Bandwidth" simply does not exist. Its a service that a customer is paying for that doesn't exist. It actually falls under the category of fraud even when I state "Unlimited Features" on my website I have above the plans "Please note unlimited means we will not limit how many you use, but please do not abuse." which pretty much states the fact that if it bogs the system down you will need to cut back but these companies don't even state this. I can understand unlimited features, but not unlimited bandwidth because it takes a good amount of usuage to slow these servers down especially if they are not overcrowded.

    You honestly cant expect google to go around and evaluate companies on what they offer and what they dont... Google doesnt only deal with webhosting, it deals with EVERY SINGLE THING you can imagine... advertising on its networks... to bring out policies for them all would be very very long winded and even then sites would pass through.
    If they can point out in 2 days that my website has excessive profanity and adult content they can surely investigate a company before ad submission in they're service.
    Kerry Jones

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    I do totally agree with you kerry that its fraud and Unlimited bandwidth/disk space is not possible.

    We also offer such as you do, We offer UNLIMITED domains... but that is within the resellers package restrictions.. Some of our customers have 75 domains with us.. and some have 6, it does not affect their accounts as thats what we offer..

    But to ask an Advertising company, whose sole responsibility is to advertise to rule out Fraudulent companies they have no idea on is not a good idea.

    To provide an example though... (I in all fairness tried SEARCHING viagra pills and this did not show) try searching the word "penis" in google and look at the adverts on the side... Now... without even looking you know those are fake. (To provide the head lines i saw was "Can my Penis size grow?" For a medicine company and "Long Dong Silver" for a German device lol)

    Google cant in any way discriminate against those sites unless they have 100% evidence that what they provide is nonsense.

    Its the same with Unlimited Disk Space/Bandwidth, Google cannot and will not discriminate against them unless google actually PHYSICALLY tries them out.

    On the other hand, adult content is a clear and define process in their TOS, they state that they do not allow adult content and THEY define what adult content is.

    EDIT: P.s I did not mean i tried viagra... Please do not pm me (Updated Post to reflect this)
    Last edited by 4Hosted; 03-31-2004 at 06:54 PM.

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    Good Points. However google is google. Just like a webhosting company they can change they're policies however they want when they want. I just recently put a "We have the right to refuse service to anyone at anytime". If I see a website is unfit to host I have the right to terminate them. I will usually ask them what type of website they are hosting. If it doesn't fall under the TOS i'll shut them down.
    Kerry Jones

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    Yes but there is no clear policies they can outline to define 1 type of website from another.

    They also have strict laws to abide by on discrimination. Such as closing down gay adult sites but not straight ones would be a backlash on google as they are discriminating.

    They DO have the rights to say who can advertise and who cant but they also have a moral and legal obligation to let advertisers compete and provide their services.

    Be it unlimited or not, Google is there to let people advertise services and as long as it doesnt have any "Unlimited webhosting" clause then it has no need to withdraw websites that dont go against its TOS.

    I would personally LOVE to see unlimited webhosts withdrawn from google if they advertise that on there.

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    I would feel if enough users complained about unlimited hosting and such i'm sure these policies would be revised and the companies deemed questionable removed.
    Kerry Jones

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    well I dont know if I would rely on whois.sc. They say we only host one web site I guess this would be my company site. We host allot more than one web site

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    Originally posted by Kerry Jones
    I would feel if enough users complained about unlimited hosting and such i'm sure these policies would be revised and the companies deemed questionable removed.
    Not likely. In spite of the overwhelming opinion here at WHT about "unlimited bandwidth," it's very well established as a marketing phrase in the hosting and connectivity industries. In spite of the common feeling here that it's deceptive, no agency like the FTC has stated such an opinion. No matter what the prevailing opinion here is, it's entirely legal to make the statement.
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    Originally posted by Kerry Jones
    I've ran into 2 hosting companies in google adsense and I know some of the WHT is good at researching into these companies so I thought I would post them up.
    And give them free links, to help their link pop and PageRank!

    and offers full backups now. If they are using Cpanel these backups would already be enabled
    They say they now do full backups twice a week. That's not the same as offering the ability for people do their own backups (which most never do) through Cpanel -- it's a very useful additional service that more hosts should offer.
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    Google's sole position is to make $$$. They're not going to remove advertisements that offer "unlimited bandwidth", even though it's impossible to live up to. Unfortunately, that's google. They offer advertisements and users pick up on that. It may be a trend, hell, it may even be false advertisement but google won't do anything about it.
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    SM doesn't offer backups with all their servers, that's not suspicious. Also, when I got my server there... it didn't have MySQL.
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