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    George Bush opens his mouth on national TV....not good..

    On AUS TV just now I saw that George Bush at a late night dinner party made jokes about weapons of mass distruction. He is now under fire for his comments, did you guys see this to? Anyone have a link to a recorded video of the event?

    What do you think about what he said?

    I'm not to phased by it, however it seemed very childish for someone of his power....
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    He was poking fun at himself it wasn't a "foot in mouth" mistake.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html
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    Originally posted by arpmn
    He was poking fun at himself it wasn't a "foot in mouth" mistake.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/....ap/index.html
    well from what I've heard lots of people are not happy with his jokes, especially the families of those who got killed in the war.....
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    especially those... Its not right to make jokes on a topic that has 10000 deths behind, all justified by the womd that never appeared, and now he's joking with that...

    If I were american I would do anything to get that guy out of my gobernment, and out of my country, to an international court to be judged for crimes against humanity.
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    Originally posted by xentury
    especially those... Its not right to make jokes on a topic that has 10000 deths behind, all justified by the womd that never appeared, and now he's joking with that...

    If I were american I would do anything to get that guy out of my gobernment, and out of my country, to an international court to be judged for crimes against humanity.
    Americans have no course of action to take against President Bush. He has not broken any laws and has not done anything in his seat that would constitute impeachment, which is the only way a President can be legally dismissed of his duties.

    As far as an international court, that will not happen. There are too many ramifications (besides the point that the US doesn't observe an international court) involved with that and there are countries, who may not agree with his actions, would not sacrifice the amount of money and resources the US produces for the world.

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    Although I don't like the jokes he made at that dinner party, I am glad that he went after Saddam, none of you can possibly say that your aren't glad Saddam has been taken care of
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    Originally posted by Bub Host
    Although I don't like the jokes he made at that dinner party, I am glad that he went after Saddam, none of you can possibly say that your aren't glad Saddam has been taken care of
    Yea you're glad? Did your country fork over $87 billion dollars to bring Saddam down?
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    Originally posted by Rob83
    Yea you're glad? Did your country fork over $87 billion dollars to bring Saddam down?
    Not that much, but we Australians were there from the start of the Iraq war, we're still there now, and we'll leave when the job is done.
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    And by the way, there are many more dictators in the world (some of them worse than sadam), when will be their turn? I guess is a "lack of oil" problem here...

    $87 billion dollard and thousands of deaths, but the US military and oil industry earning records.
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    Originally posted by xentury
    And by the way, there are many more dictators in the world (some of them worse than sadam), when will be their turn? I guess is a "lack of oil" problem here...

    The "oil" argument is valid/non valid. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens with that in the coming year/s.
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    I find it funny....sadly for all the wrong reasons.

    This is the kind of thing you would expect to see on 2dtv or something.

    I mean..he is the most powerful man in the world and he makes a joke about something like this?
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    I think when people look back in 20 or 30 years time they'll be staggered that Bush was able to get away with some of things he has.
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    I think many people here don't like Bush, but he will get re elected because there is no one better.

    We basically have two options, 1. become a socialist country under one candidate, and skyrocket up to 10+% unemployment like most of europe. Or 2. Elect the current president see unemployment go down, pay less taxes, and have some other goof ups, like the mexican "worker program", a botched medicare plan, and a botched educational "reform".

    And IMO, no one I have heard publicly has ANY good education reforms, throwing money at kids does not educate them, returning control to the local schools and counties will help more than anything, the local communities need to be able to set their standards and goals, and they will set them far higher than the Federal or state govts will, and then THEY need to be given more control to levy taxes, and I can tell you if the community wants better schools they will be willing to pitch in the money to make it better. then of course you have the "poor areas" dilema, but even the poor areas have more money trafficed through than one would believe, and if a school sales tax of .25% where added in an area, the school would have an immediate boost in funds. Anyway, that is my toughts on this a bit of topic posts..


    Back to the subject, I found a number of the slideshow pictures of Bush that he make jokes about himself with very funny.
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    Or 2. Elect the current president see unemployment go down,

    Tell that to the 3 million new people that are unemployed since Bush took over.
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    blue27,

    unemployment is already going down
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    I unfortunately think Amd_duron might be right. I don't wanna see bush re elected, but Kerry just doesn't seem like a very strong candidate. Although we never know. I can only pray Kerry gets in.
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    Blaming Bush for unemployment is niave. There were far too many paper jobs created by the irrational exuberance, I'm surprised more were not lost.

    Unemployment is at the same level as it was during the 1996 lection. Who ever said a 5.6% unemployment rate was bad anyways? It's much better than nearly every European country.
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    Yes, most of europe hovers around 10%. I will leave off the other comment I started to make, I would not want to hurt my eurpean friends feelings.
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    If Kerry gets in, we are DOOMMMEEDDD. I will admit that Bush has his down falls, but Kerry can not (will not) lead this country to anything great.

    As for the people that lost their lifes in Iraq, this country could never repay you for defending our FREEDOM.
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    Yes, unemployment is natural and is necessary. You must also look at expoting of jobs, average income (people are loosing jobs and taking much lower paid jobs). There are just soo many factors not one person or event is to blame.
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    Can someone mirror the movie ?

    Thanks
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    Comparing european unemployment with US unemployment is ridiculous. Hell just looking at unemployment figures alone without looking at social conditions is nonsense. That's like looking at the GDP without looking at distribution of wealth, environmental condtions, living conditions etc.

    Kerry is just a bushlite, bit better, but not much.
    About the jokes; it's just sick.
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    Eric, how is comapring the unemployment ridiculous? Unemployment is the same anywhere in the world last I checked, except in third world countries more an unemployed than employed.

    So what if in europe the employed pay for the unemployed to have the same level of lifestyle, that is wrong, and I will never see it in the US, if I do I will rebel along with many many others. Temporary unemployment benefits is one thing, permanent is not.
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    Basicly comparing European economys to the american one is stupid, in so many ways.

    But if you insist....the unemployment rate of England is about 3%.
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    Originally posted by amd_duron
    Eric, how is comapring the unemployment ridiculous?
    Basically for the same reasons you can't compare apples (european unemployment) and oranges (us unemployment) although both are fruits (unemployment)

    Since the situations are quite different in europe (and europe is so diverse too) and the US.

    A society without many unemployment doesn't mean it's good either, for instance if everyone earns less than a dollar a day and lives in horrible conditoins. Under Hitler or say Stalin unemployment was low, doesn't mean it was all that great either.

    Originally posted by amd_duron

    So what if in europe the employed pay for the unemployed to have the same level of lifestyle, that is wrong, and I will never see it in the US, if I do I will rebel along with many many others. Temporary unemployment benefits is one thing, permanent is not
    what do you mean with "lifestyle"? I don't consider having health care, food, transportation, education etc a "lifestyle".
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    Ok, I will not continue the political debate, it leads no where. I disagree with comparing, and I disagee with giving education, food, and education to people that refuse to work, if they are willing to work, even a volunteer job I woudl be more than willing to give them food and education, and a recommendation for a real paying job.

    BTW, people here don't make a dollar a day with low unemployment, so that is very different as well. Even at minimum wage you can make a living, in most of the country. (CA is a big exception to that, you would be starving in CA with minimum wage, everything is so highly inflated over its value anywhere else)
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    Where are you guys gettign the 10% uneployment in EUROPE from ?

    I'm in Portugal right now, it hoovers about 3% .. the area I am (Azores, is below 2%)

    I live in both sides of the Atlantic .. and I must tell you .. anybody that thinks there is freedom of speech and press in the USA needs to take a vacation over here and watch the latenight news ..
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    Originally posted by amd_duron
    blue27,

    unemployment is already going down

    Of course unemployment is going down. This is an election year.

    What has Bush been doing for the last 3 years?
    Don't judge a president by what he does in the year of an election.
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    Originally posted by xentury
    And by the way, there are many more dictators in the world (some of them worse than sadam), when will be their turn? I guess is a "lack of oil" problem here...

    $87 billion dollard and thousands of deaths, but the US military and oil industry earning records.
    the US gets only a small percentage, (less than 10) from that AREA of the world. get your facts straight.
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    Originally posted by Fujiwara Takumi
    the US gets only a small percentage, (less than 10) from that AREA of the world. get your facts straight.
    Yup, US must be getting its oil from some other secret place noone knows about.
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    Originally posted by CRego3D
    I live in both sides of the Atlantic .. and I must tell you .. anybody that thinks there is freedom of speech and press in the USA needs to take a vacation over here and watch the latenight news ..
    I am going to have to agree with you on this one Carlos !

    I spend about 50% of my time in Ireland and the news that they get their (mostly from the UK) is completely different from what we see here in the US. That was actually one of the first things I noticed when I started spending long periods of time in europe. I think it is too bad that we (Americans) cannot get the same level of news details that others do in Europe ... Especially since much of the news is about us !!
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    The reason you can't nate is because in most (many) countries, television is state run, so there is no bias in foreign news.
    In the US, the news networks are all privately owned and they are motivated by commercial sales dollars, or in the case of some, but the philosophy of the station owners.
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    Originally posted by blue27
    The reason you can't nate is because in most (many) countries, television is state run, so there is no bias in foreign news.
    In the US, the news networks are all privately owned and they are motivated by commercial sales dollars, or in the case of some, but the philosophy of the station owners.
    Thanks for the qwik lesson in news broadcasting but I was not asking why. I was just agreeing with Carlos on the difference in broadcasted content and saying it is to bad for the rest of us here in the states....
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    How can state run media not be bias? I think that is totally wrong, there might be some that is government funded that is not too bias, BUT some of the grossest examples in history of extreme media bias where/are state run, in favor of their government. So there might be a degree of truth to the statement, but there is the other extreme to it as well.
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    Originally posted by amd_duron
    How can state run media not be bias? I think that is totally wrong, there might be some that is government funded that is not too bias, BUT some of the grossest examples in history of extreme media bias where/are state run, in favor of their government. So there might be a degree of truth to the statement, but there is the other extreme to it as well.

    True.
    I am biased on this issue as I tend to get most of my reliable news from the CBC (Canada) and the BBC (UK) which are far superior and in my opinion far more credible than US news organizations.
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    Just to throw in my thoughts.

    I think we can start ranting and pouting about unemployment. It was the President who said he WILL create all these new jobs, that he has Failed to create. Lets face it. Bush hasn't done anything in his whole 4 years but focus on how he could get over there and get Sadaam.

    And, whatever Bush does this year is only for him to get re-elected. If hes re-elected, he'll drop all his promises like usual, and focus on another war with another country.

    This is what I think.
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    Originally posted by Compu
    If Kerry gets in, we are DOOMMMEEDDD. I will admit that Bush has his down falls, but Kerry can not (will not) lead this country to anything great.
    Bush has not lead this country to anything "great" either.

    I suppose we should just let Bush stay and continue to screw the USA like he has been during his whole term.
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    I can see how the joke was tasteless. But, I think the main problem of his joke was timing...just godawful timing!! ESPECIALLY...during an election year...jeez! It does not know how to be a good politician
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