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    What happened to unlimband.com?

    I was reading a post by someone who dug up a 3yr old thread, to basically gloat that unlimband.com is no longer around -
    Originally posted by comuay
    Well, unlimband.com is no longer with us... it's amazing that all of you can sit in this forum, with nothing better to do with your lives, and insult those who could care less, or simply have more important things to do than to defend themselves.

    One lawsuit, no more unlimband.. I believe we can safely say the corporate world has spoken. As for all of you insignificants... get a hobby.

    I believe that we can safely say that free speech has been trampled upon, by those with commercial interests to protect the continuation of the lie of Unlimited bandwidth hosting. God forbid that the public be educated to this lie.

    Heck, I'll build a similar site. They can chase me and sue me if they want. I won't sit by and let free speech be bullied about like that.

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    I'd like to see you do that Aussie I remember visiting Unlimband quite often!
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    I agree with you Bob. I don't think that anyone should have the right to trample on someone's right to an opinion. If you need a hand with the sight, drop me a line. I'd be happy to help in any way that I can.
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    They listed CI Host, didn't they? I would not be surprised if Chris & Co. were somehow behind this. In fact, I would be more surprised if they were not involved. (It should go without saying that this is just my opinion and I am not accusing CI Host of shutting down unlimband.com... simply stating that it would certainly fit their pattern of lawsuits. )

    Anyway, I would be very interested in seeing an Unlimband 2.0. The original site was one of the most useful hosting-related sites out there, IMO.

    Btw, Aussie Bob: Xshare said he was going to recreate the site, so you may want to get in touch with him.

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    Has anyone tried to contact the domain registrant?

    I wouldn't mind helping to re-create Unlimband too. Drop me a line folks, and we could get something started.
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    Funny thing is, a user (David_A) posted this in the thread referenced by Aussie Bob earlier.

    Hey people,

    Just so you know, being an attorney in this field for the last four years, although you enjoy bad mouthing this company, you're only making it worse for yourself.

    If this company is able to prove that they lost potential customers as a direct or indirect result of your web site you are liable. For example, if a potential customer inquired but then decided to go to a different host because of a listing on your site, you are actually driving away business, which is against the law.

    I'm not taking sides here, I'm just letting you know that instead of instigating the matter by creating this forum, I would simply try and let it die out before you find yourself in an actual legal situation.

    Take care,

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    People shunned him off after that. I suppose sometimes, things need to be left to the veterans in the industry.
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    I don't think that such a site should name hosts, who spread the lie of unlimited bandwidth hosting. The site should be more about educating and empowering consumers into the truth of unlimited bandwidth hosting. By naming hosts, the site was open to attack, and hence vulnerable.

    I would love to see whoever launched legal action against unlimband.com, to come guns_a_blazing after me, if I built such an information and educational site. Just bring it.

    If the owner of the domain unlimband.com, wants to transfer that to me, I will rebuild the site and take the fight against this deliberate deceptive hosting practice, that is a scourge in the industry.
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    Originally posted by Aussie Bob
    If the owner of the domain unlimband.com, wants to transfer that to me, I will rebuild the site and take the fight against this deliberate deceptive hosting practice, that is a scourge in the industry.
    I have already contacted the registrant. We'll see how it goes, but you can be sure that I'll update the community as and when I receive any information.
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    I agree with Aussie Bob, this should not be a name and shame campaign.

    If it's an educational site, there is absolutely nothing anybody can do (in my opinion anyway!)
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    Originally posted by BWS
    I agree with Aussie Bob, this should not be a name and shame campaign.

    If it's an educational site, there is absolutely nothing anybody can do (in my opinion anyway!)
    Oh I still think someone will go after it. But let's see them chase me through their legal system.

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    It's a nice idea in theory however a new name is needed. People are aware it's not possible to receive unlimited bandwidth, so now hosts are offering 10gb's of space 1000gb's of transfer for $100/year instead

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    Perhaps we could toss around suggestions for a new name here. It's a community project after all.
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    My question is...

    When the domain is accessed, it comes up a blank page. I did a "View Page Source" on the blank page and this is what I found:
    <script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
    document.write('<img src="/unique/track.gif" style="height : 0; width : 0; border-width : 0; display: none">');
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    That's all that showed in the page source. Is the page tracking visitors but nothing else? It is obviously still hosted and therefore not completely dead. Or am I thinking wrong here?

    Also, the site's owner, jimb hasn't been on WHT since 07-16-2003 @ 03:33 PM. What happened to him?

    Was the site actually taken down by a court order or has it just fallen into disarray or been hacked and he may not know about it?

    [EDIT: I visited the site late last year and it was still active. Can't remember exactly when though... ]
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    The site hadn't been updated in years from what I remember. I didn't think it was a lawsuit that brought it down, I thought it just went to the wayside.

    Also, seems like I remember Akash was going to take over the project. Then again, it could be a figment of my imagination. The voices in my head confuse me at times.
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    Seems like a few of us had the same thought when reading that 3 yr old thread. Now I'm not gonna go and re-invent the wheel if someone else is going to recreate unlimband.com, but I'll gladly offer any help I can.
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    Actually I visited the site a few weeks ago. If I remember it right it was filled with ads. It looks much better now.

    Perhaps the WHT community should recreate the site as a purely educational resource as Bob said. I will help the best I can.

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    I have a question for everyone here...

    If I were to register a new domain (I have a good one in mind) to be used for a site about such things... how many would contribute to the project? (Content, site layout and design help, logos and images that hosts can use on their sites to support it, etc)

    Not to reinvent the wheel but as a fresh starting point for a project that has a great deal of benefit for legitimate hosting professionals.

    If enough interest is there, I will buy the domain... I have it in my lookup at this minute.

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    Well like I said a few posts back, I'll offer my help. Standards-compliant design and CSS (ie keeping the bandwidth costs down) are my speciality.
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    What about trying something like buying unlimitedwebspacehosting.com and putting up a company front end. When people try to order a package you put up a warning of unlimited doesn't exist etc...

    Just a thought

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    I know this is an unlimband thread but no one has mentioned what an impotent loser this comuey character seems to be.

    Just in case you choose to sniff around this thread comuey, perhaps you could explain how people on this forum are insignificants and need a hobby, when it is you who spent all the time looking for a 3 year old thread.

    The only one that seems to be insignificant is you. I guess you must have been a frustrated 14 year old who started up an unlimited hosting business and didn't have the eggs to keep it going.
    Perhaps you got listed on unlimband and now you blame them for all the many problems in life that you must have.

    Since you "could care less" I guess it doesn't matter to you that your post has inspired people to start up at least one and perhaps many more sites just like unlimband.

    Thanks for bringing it up. You have done a service to real hosts who know that unlimited bandwidth is a scam.


    Maybe comuey is one the list?
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    blue27, you lost me somewhere. What exactly are you talking about?
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    Originally posted by Knogle
    blue27, you lost me somewhere. What exactly are you talking about?

    comuey is the one post wonder that Bob is referring to in his original post.

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    Ahh right, that puts things in perspective.
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    Originally posted by blue27
    Since you "could care less" I guess it doesn't matter to you that your post has inspired people to start up at least one and perhaps many more sites just like unlimband.

    Thanks for bringing it up. You have done a service to real hosts who know that unlimited bandwidth is a scam.
    I did go ahead and purchase the domain I had in mind for a resurrection of the project.

    Anyone interested in offering your help to get it off the ground please contact me off-forum (IM, email or phone) so we can discuss it.

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    Just to update you folks. Here's a response from Flo, current owner of Unlimband.com.

    Hello

    Sorry, but transfer of ownership is not an option for me. (I even dropped about 10 offers from peoble who wanted to buy it)
    I would gladly accept help from you or other WHT-people in order to bring it back fast. I am busy until 30.03.2004, but afterwords I will think about a concept for the site (for example: blacklist yes or no.. - probably no, as I want no lawsuits).
    So, perhaps you would like to start a brainstorming or some design or something else at WHT, but I cannot take part until 30.03.2004. (Just as information: my hosting is windows on webair. So, PHP would not work)

    Regards,
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    Originally posted by MN-Robert
    It's a nice idea in theory however a new name is needed. People are aware it's not possible to receive unlimited bandwidth, so now hosts are offering 10gb's of space 1000gb's of transfer for $100/year instead
    I think it (the new site) should include something about overselling, so that it covers overselling AND unlim. bandwith (AND unlim. disk space) .

    what about : www.TheTruthAboutWebHosting.com ?

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    There already is a site to explain this stuff to consumers. It is at http://www.hosthelp.com

    Also, do you think a site like http://yourhostsucks.com/ could face any legalities?
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    Listen, stop and think for a minute...

    If you wanna do this (recreate a site like this) do it right.

    Educated clients know about forums like this and know good host done offer unlimited hosting, but uneducated clients dont... so they look for host based on hosting directories and search engines like google.

    One or two sites on the net educating the mass about unlimited bandwidth wont cut it. If you do a search on google you will never find unlimiband (when it was up) unless you knew about the site already. Also its not listed in hosting directories.

    What needs to happen is each person that wants to fight this, each needs to make a unlimited bandwidth informational page themselves. instead of one or two.. we need to have mulitples, so the word gets out and has a better chance of showing up in search engines and link them all together. We also need to get hosting directories to have a section set aside to inform clients about unlimited bandwidth from one of these pages.

    this is how you truely fight unlimited bandwidth. One site has a small voice almost unheard, but many can make a difference.

    Aussie Bob, if you would like to work on this with me... I would be glad to help you out any way I can.. just PM me man.

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    I purpose everyone set aside a few megs space and a domain to make a page.

    i can even write (copy and paste) from a site I am making now, all the text if needed.. just set up space and a domain.. maybe even a sub-domain for this project if you truely want to help

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    We also need to hit the areas where uneducated clients broswe.. hosting directories and search engines and if your listed well yourself on these.. maybe posting a link on your site "unlimited bandwidth" options.,. but the link takes you to one of these informational pages

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    Based on the response Knogle got from the domain owner, Unlimband.com may come back but I don't get the impression he/she is very motivated to do it.

    I don't want to steal their "thunder" by any means. I did buy the domain I had in mind and do plan on setting up a site with it. I'm sure there is plenty of room on the net for the one that I hope to start and Unlimband.com when it is finally put back online. The whole point is to get the information out about the "unlimited" scam so the more sites there are about it, the better the information will get out.

    Either way, they were the first and will always have my support and respect.

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    I think it (the new site) should include something about overselling...
    I don't entirely agree here. Even the largest and most stable companies in the industry do some sort of overselling. Most data centers do it.

    I DO agree that overselling can be a dangerous thing if not managed wisely but not so sure I would make a big thing about it. Have you ever ordered something mail/phone order and were told it is "back-ordered"? It's because they most likely oversold their actual stock and now have to get more. Overselling isn't confined to this industry and is a widely used practice in many types of business.

    but, Let's NOT start a debate on overselling here.

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    as a matter of fact, anyone wanting to help somehow.. I am starting a list.. please PM me with your name, company, and url and you will go on the list. I will contact you later after my twin girls are born this monday.

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    Originally posted by eliquid
    I will contact you later after my twin girls are born this monday.
    Congrats on the twins.. you may not have much time for a project like this after Monday

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    thanks, thats what my wife says... but I always squeeze in time for hosting related stuff.. even if it means staying up 24 hours straight!

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    Originally posted by Two_A_T
    [overselling]
    I don't entirely agree here. Even the largest and most stable companies in the industry do some sort of overselling. Most data centers do it.

    I DO agree that overselling can be a dangerous thing if not managed wisely but not so sure I would make a big thing about it. Have you ever ordered something mail/phone order and were told it is "back-ordered"? It's because they most likely oversold their actual stock and now have to get more. Overselling isn't confined to this industry and is a widely used practice in many types of business.

    but, Let's NOT start a debate on overselling here.
    I agree with your, I never meant that overselling is bad, I'd even say it can be good.

    What we need to warn users about is excessive overselling.

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    Originally posted by alex-info
    I agree with your, I never meant that overselling is bad, I'd even say it can be good.

    What we need to warn users about is excessive overselling.
    That I agree with. The only problem would be there is no way to prove someone is overselling to the danger point so there aren't any real guidelines to post that I can think of.

    But, a section about overselling and how it can be bad if not wisely and carefully used would definitely be of use to potential hosting clients. If for no other reason than so they can ask some educated questions when checking into a potential host.

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    I honestly think there needs to be a web hosting alliance.

    On the host's site there should be a logo.

    "Do you want unlimited bandwidth? Click here!"

    This would lure the consume to click the logo and they would be directed to an alliance page that says, the host you came from does not offer unlimited bandwidth and state the reasons why.

    I would be more than happy participating in a orgination or alliance that has the consumer's good will at hand.
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    This would lure the consume to click the logo and they would be directed to an alliance page that says, the host you came from does not offer unlimited bandwidth and state the reasons why.
    Yeah... I like the idea. Simple and effective. After all, it's not that hard to explain a simple thing like unlimited bandwidth (or is that data transfer? ).

    "Web hosting aliance"... sounds good and yet scary (to me at least).

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    We don't need anything.

    We just need a simple informative site, informing potential visitors about the truth about the phrase 'unlimited bandwidth' both in technical and laymen's terms.

    It should also offer ways to choose a host. Thats going onto the surface and not going too deeply.
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    we had that, and I can tell you this... all my clients that didnt know about the dangers of unlimited plans had never heard of unlimiband.com before... simply becuase its a needle in a haystack since it was about the only site doing it.

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