Hello i`m looking for a dedicated server that allow IRC i was user from serveroutsource.net but they get out of business and now i`m trying to find another data center that allow IRC with these configurations:
I want a server like this:
AMD or Intel p4
AMD 2000 or intel p4 2ghz
1024 mb ram
80GB Hard Drive
1000GB of transfer.
I was paying for that same server $112 in serveroutsource.net.
I assumed that he would be linking to other networks because of the bandwidth requirement he was specifying, and also the "oftc" in his nickname is an actual network.
A friend uses SagoNet, he hasn't had a problem with them for the duration of his account there (a few months), and it looks like SagoNet can provide you with what you requested, except the price is just a bit higher. With your budget, they're probably you're best bet.
heh considering it was for a shellhost i assumed he plans to run several ircds linked to many places, but i was correcting your statement about ev1 not allowing irc as they do but with high restrictions. Also I have a sago server and have seen multiple downtimes and not the best for irc, I would suggsest server4you over sago but if it came down to it for a shell host I wouldnt want any of the 3.
Providers don't allow IRC for several reasons. If you are going to allow IRC, the majority of the time you will need to focus on IRC. You can't have a standard network and allow IRC to be ran on it and withstand any major attacks at all. There's not any /real/ business or future in IRC, thus it's not widely welcomed by providers. Also, you have to consider the amount of firewalling and time that's going to be put into protecting the line -- major pain in the ***. Then you have bandwidth, even if you filter at the uplink, there are still ways to DoS the daylights out of a server. This eats up traffic that IRC customers generally don't want to pay for (whether it be a one time cost per attack or an overall cost per GB increase). IRC customers are high maintenance and generally no fun.
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Originally posted by WebDork Just for interest - why do so many hosting companies not allow IRC servers on their network ?
Bandwidth is bandwidth.
Unless of course company's network is badly designed, oversubscribed or their business model is totally broken, provided that the customer has ability to pay for the traffic that his or hers site generates.... irc is just bits
Originally posted by interquad Keep telling yourself that.
Let me repeat it -
If a customer is capable of paying for the bandwidth that his IRC server generates (including bandwidth generated by DOS attacks) there should be no difference to a service provider if the customer is an IRC server hoster, NetAID concert or a 120 machine Akamafia node pushing 4Gbit/sec.
If your network cannot withstand that level of traffic, then it simply cannot withstand that level of traffic, not because that is the level of traffic that IRC generates.
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For one thing, if your going to have IRC, the server should be dedicated to IRC. IRC tends to be a system hog, and should not be on a shared server with anything else. The Datacenter's don't like it, because it opens up unneccessary ports, accepting DOS attack's like crazy. This in turn takes parts of the network, if not all of it down for repair. This makes the Datacenter look bad as they are always down, and loses them customers.
Dealing with DDoS attacks is a hassle, especially if you don't have large uplinks. However, the larger datacenters, that are cabable of withstanding GBps attacks, usually have good design implementations that filter the attack so only the DC and the target know there was an attack.
I dont think a ddos on a irc network will take down a datacentre long enough for www customers to notice if it gets filtered quickly, normally its irc users who notice intermant downtimes, a 2 min outage affects a web server less, you are right irc servers require more work into blocking attacks but I feel the datacentres that dont want to allow this simply shows that they are not capable in one or the other of not withstanding an attack, wether it be either poor network or poor manpower ability to filter out attacks.
Like the other poster said on dedicated boxes the customer foots the bill for the traffic.
you are right irc servers require more work into blocking attacks but I feel the datacentres that dont want to allow this simply shows that they are not capable in one or the other of not withstanding an attack, wether it be either poor network or poor manpower ability to filter out attacks.
Don't knock a datacenter because they don't cater to your specific needs. Its their fiber, if you can do it better do it =P.
I am a IRC host, and it is every bit as annoying as everyone here just stated. We cap the lines to the machines independantly. If they eat up their chunk... thats all they can use. They just flood off.. no damage to the network, no expensive dDoS protection. We have more problems with our customers trying to run botnets then getting attacked.