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    Hey ya'll,

    Please forgive my ignorance, but I am just beginning to get serious about starting my own site and I have no idea where to start really. Any help would be great!!

    I am shopping for a hosting plan, but am not sure exactly what it is I will require.

    Here's what I know:

    -The site will have considerable adult content. While it will not be a site containing pornographic imagery, it will have written content considered obscene by some censors. I know by reading the terms and conditions of most companies, I cannot use their service. But if I go to a strictly "adult" host, it is terribly pricey. And since at this time it will not be a "pay site", I need something moderately priced.

    -I need to be able to have many people log in under different usernames to post to message boards at the same time (I need the capacity to keep two or three of those going).

    If you have any suggestions or ideas, I would greatly appreciate your input.

    Thanks,
    Xxene

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    Hi there Xxene,

    Have seen a few hosting companies related to your post.

    Although i would need more information as some of them actually block "Specific" types of adult material.

    if you are ok to post the type here, can i ask if it is related to Straight, gay, animal, transvestite, EXTREME or any type of unanimate object type of sex?

    The reason i ask is that we too run an adult type service (although i wont and dont promote it here) i have an extensive list of competitiors who freely block gay, animal, EXTREME and unanimate type sex, explaining, if you can a little more freely on the type i could give you a more detailed host list

    Hope this helps

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    Thanks, Kevin.

    What I am mostly going to use the site for, is a gathering place for a lot of my friends. We are very candid in our speech however. There will definitely be some explicit TALK of gay/lesbian sexual acts, but I'm not planning on any photography of that sort. There will be columns that are, um...how do I say this politely...instructional that will be quite graphic in their written content but again, I don't plan on putting visual aides up.

    As far as beastiality, that's a big no. Inannimate sex, unless you consider plastic or silicone or things of gel consistancy, in that category, then no.

    I'm not sure what would be considered extreme, but I don't think there will be anything in that genre. But then again, my idea of extreme and someone else's is probably a little different.

    Thanks for your help, Kevin.

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    Try checking the adult directory for providers:
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    Just to clarify, it's not a gay/lesbian site, but there are many bisexual females that will frequent it, so that is what I meant about the candid speech in that area.

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    Hi Xxene,

    My post of EXTREME was pretty general, i put it as such as i dont know how to ever classify it myself when approving websites.

    Its most DOMINATRIX style, lol, simply such as breath control, masks, whipping and your general LEATHER scene....

    as you mentioned its Gay/Lesbian i can recommend adulthosting.com, although i do see where you mention price, they definately arent cheap for what they provide.

    Although they may providew an alternative from what youve been quoted before

    Generally and weirdly enough, although it is still adult content and pretty much roughly the same, adult hosts do actually ban specific types of adult hosting. Particularly Gay/Lesbian and Bestiality.

    We also host a "Furniture porn" site which was thrown off for its content, although hilarious to our staff it wasnt to its previous host.. and to think they had to use an adult host is sickening.

    Im unsure wether you would have problems with current "normal" hosts, if you dont host any adult imagery i would find a problem with it.. Im unsure on how far "Adult Material" goes on some hosts.

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    Ah ok, well candid speech is usually a freedom and shouldnt generally be looked upon although some would classify this as "adult material".

    i would still take a peek at adulthosting.com, if that would ever fail or if your interested in better prices, adultbouncer.com and SUPPOSEDLY Velcom.com do support adult sites.

    Velcom.com is probably the cheapest ive come across and probably dont know what they are getting themselves into.

    Although i only have had and still only probably will have 1 System administrator for our Adult hosting side... he has seen it all and never bats an eyelid... James scares even myself nowadays.

    I have *tried* to integrate other staff into our adult hosting market but none seem willing enough.. Ah well....

    But you know whats its like

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    http://www.unrestricted.net/ is the adult-ok subsidary of Burst.net. Their prices seem reasonable. My Serial Beggar site is at Unrestricted.net right now. Note: since it is Burst, you may also want to take into consideration their occasional outages. My sites are not mission critical, so I can live with them (if they stay infrequent).

    http://www.lunarpages.com is also ok with adult content. I used them for most of a year and had no problems. I only left to consolidate my sites at Unrestricted.

    Before Lunar Pages, I was at Velcom for a few months. Everything was going ok, then suddenly they shut my account off. I never got a straight answer as to why. The only hint was the tech support guy saying he thinks it was related to billing. Of course Billing support never responded to me. And it wasn't as if I wasn't paying since I had my account set up for auto-billing so they had my credit card info. Luckily, my site wasn't important, so I moved on.
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    Thanks serial! i did forget to mention unrestricted.net but with the problems with burst.net's problems right now.. i wouldnt recommend although.. i did see a fair amount of uptime from them!!

    Lunarpages is a fair bit vague in what they allow for adult content... But, from what youve posted Xxene you should be ok to get hosted their.

    Ive heard good reviews about lunarpages and, if they are willing to accomodate your adult resources, you will probably be another satisfied customer.

    Good luck

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    Thanks so much, ya'll. You have been a lot of help. I swear I think I might just be jumping into the deep end on this venture, but oh well...I've never been much of one for sitting back and thinking things over before I act unfortunately.


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    lol, any type of adult material can "feel" like jumping in at the deep end, i can assure its usually not, the only problem is finding the right provider for you.

    I have seen many like yourself in the same situation and i really do hope you find the right provider. Adult hosting probably is the most profitable but the most dis-informed service i have seen....

    Gay/Lesbian ventures are most times banned and looked upon, I, myself actually started a lesbian & gay (seperate) porn website to reep the benfits of all that didnt have it... that was many moons ago and it has actually became a fashion now.

    Our sites are aimed at gay/lesbians due to the nature of some sites blatanty disregarding them, we do not offer adult hosting services under those names any more.

    I would rather consolidate (as such i have been doing) all customers to be a part of our current websites. I dont see the need to seperate our adult hosting customers from our current customers;

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    doesnt mosy hosts already allow porn on their servers.

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    Yes, most hosts will allow it, just send them an email and ask...
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    Depends what you want to spend.

    You could try:

    managed.com
    servermatrix.com
    rackshack.net

    I have dedicated servers running adult content on each of those. Each has their pros and cons.

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    Ah no most hosts do not allow pron on their servers. Search WHT and see the poll results on this subject.

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    doesnt mosy hosts already allow porn on their servers.
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    I don't see why hosts would have anything against it. It does not make any business sense to prohibit something that is not illegal :-)

    It is better to set rules than to say absolutely no to adult content if you are afraid if adult content being a resource hog.

    To deny someone from their right of free speech and expression is wrong. Especially when it comes to something everyone does.
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    I am currently with HOSTANYTHING.NET and I've never been down and they are real cheap. Also they have a real neat control pannel.

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    Hey,

    I'm an adult webmaster and I use a number of adult hosts depending on the content/etc.

    I've had good experiences with http://www.sexy-hosting.com

    Nice guys and very reliable service. Not the cheapest, but I think it would suit you guys just fine.

    Any questions, gimme a shout.

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    Originally posted by Maximiliam
    I don't see why hosts would have anything against it. It does not make any business sense to prohibit something that is not illegal :-)

    It is better to set rules than to say absolutely no to adult content if you are afraid if adult content being a resource hog.

    To deny someone from their right of free speech and expression is wrong. Especially when it comes to something everyone does.
    Actually Max, hosts would be against adult hosting for many reasons. They may have certain ethical reasons behind not allowing such content, graphical or not. However, the biggest barrier by far is security and the risks involved.

    Adult sites are more likely to be hacked into by those who simply don't wish to pay for the content. So if you haven't already, you'll need to heavily invest in good strong security and educate clients with good password discipline. In addition to this the same people that do not manage to hack into the account, may get pissed off, and attack the site, and we all know how annoying a DDOS attack can be. People that may object to pornography, again either because of ethical or religious reasons, may also attack the site, thus the server.

    So it's for that reason why you find either hosts charge a high amount for adult hosting so they can cover the huge security costs, and also the risk involved.

    I allow adult content on my server, but not on the cheapest package (for the reasons described above).


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    Originally posted by stealthdevil
    Actually Max, hosts would be against adult hosting for many reasons. They may have certain ethical reasons behind not allowing such content, graphical or not.
    This is something I'll never understand. Sex is more natural than website hosting! The idea of pornography being "unethical" is a serious flaw in todays society...

    /me crawls back into his corner

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    This is definitely a matter of opinion, Max. I don't think it's up to any of us to tell another Web host how to run their business and what policies they should impose. Some of us are prepared to handle the possible stresses and deal with the penalties that may occur from an adult web site, others may wish to protect their systems and their other customers from any remote possibility of what an adult site might bring.

    And another arguement I have seen on this forum before is that some "regular" web hosting customers actually veer away from a host that allows adult sites because they don't want to be a possible victim of a resource hog, an attack, a spam abuse issue, etc.
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    Originally posted by jcwebii
    And another arguement I have seen on this forum before is that some "regular" web hosting customers actually veer away from a host that allows adult sites because they don't want to be a possible victim of a resource hog, an attack, a spam abuse issue, etc.
    That could happen to any host, it doesn't matter whether it has adult sites on it or not.

    Hosts host sites, a simple commerce site can be a resource hog as well. Spammers rarely need to use an adult friendly host as their priority, heck any host will do them good and etc.

    Just a few common misconceptions there.
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    This actually the debate I was looking for.

    Our adult users are the ones that do not spam. How do you respond to that? Neither are they targeted in anyway when it comes to denial of service attacks. And we have several years of track record when it comes to that.
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    I agree and when I remind people that the very act that they object to are what got them here in the first place they tend to get perturbed lol Seriously tho I wish more hosts would prohibit porn as it only means more business for us . . .

    What better way to remove the competition than to have the competition remove themselves!

    Originally posted by en2
    This is something I'll never understand. Sex is more natural than website hosting! The idea of pornography being "unethical" is a serious flaw in todays society...

    /me crawls back into his corner
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    Net-trend and Max, I didn't say I agreed with those points...just that they do come up whenever hosts are asked "why don't you support adult hosting". I actually completely agree with you that there are many other types of web sites that are "resource hogs" or penalized spammers that are not adult-related at all. (Political sites are a good example.)

    I'm not trying to debate this. In fact, we do host some sites of adult content and they have never caused any problems. Some hosts choose to serve those customers, some don't. It's their prerogative to discriminate if they feel that's the best business structure for them.
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