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03-02-2004, 08:36 PM #1Newbie
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Carrier Neutral or Not?
I am looking for a new colocation provider (in LA) and am considering some carrier neutral options such as Switch and Data. I am not familiar with the possible issues/pitfalls with using a carrier neutral colo versus traditional colo.
I worry that I'm somehow setting myself up for disaster by only having a single bandwidth provider... I don't have enough bandwidth needs / budget for multiple providers and BGP, not that I'd even know how to get that going...
Would it make more sense for me then to go with a 'traditional' colo, assuming they would have 'good' redundant connectivity?
Any other issues that you think might be good to consider would be appreciated!
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03-02-2004, 09:29 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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Depends on the money and the knowledge. If you have to think about whether its over you're head or not, it probably is. Carrier Neutral will (more often than not) be more expensive but it opens a world of opportunity which is a good thing to consider for any legit/serious business.
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03-03-2004, 05:28 AM #3THE Web Hosting Master
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If you don't want to deal with BGP and can't afford multiple providers just go with a company that does colo on their own multi-homed network. It'll be much easier for you. You can always go to a carrier neutral facility if you want, but honestly, for many, that's over-kill.
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03-03-2004, 05:59 AM #4Web Hosting Master
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Re: Carrier Neutral or Not?
Originally posted by eprigge
I am looking for a new colocation provider (in LA) and am considering some carrier neutral options such as Switch and Data. I am not familiar with the possible issues/pitfalls with using a carrier neutral colo versus traditional colo.
I worry that I'm somehow setting myself up for disaster by only having a single bandwidth provider... I don't have enough bandwidth needs / budget for multiple providers and BGP, not that I'd even know how to get that going...
Would it make more sense for me then to go with a 'traditional' colo, assuming they would have 'good' redundant connectivity?
Any other issues that you think might be good to consider would be appreciated!
I agree with Karl and you should only go with a provider that is running a bgp4'd network so you don't have to worry about the network end of things.
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03-03-2004, 06:04 AM #5Web Hosting Master
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If you want the occassional reboot and/or some kind of staff 24/7 to feel safe about your equipment, then you should look into a carrier DC. Carrier Neutral DC is the better choice if u're looking for multiple provider. Generally, you can turn a Carrier DC into a Carrier Neutral one by ordering a Point to Point Transport circuit to a carrier Neutral DC and pick everybody up at that location, but it maybe even more OVERkill then ur needs.
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03-03-2004, 04:37 PM #6Newbie
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Thanks for the information guys. I figure having carrier neutral + a single provider isn't too wise for me, I really do need reliable bandwidth....
Just for my edification though, will carrier neutral colos run the BGP / multihoming for you or do you generally have to do it yourself on your own router from the multiple feeds they'd cross connect to you? And if they will do it, generally what do they charge for 'multihoming' you?
Sorry if these are stupid questions. I haven't seen this explained elsewhere.Last edited by eprigge; 03-03-2004 at 04:44 PM.
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03-03-2004, 05:01 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by eprigge
Just for my edification though, will carrier neutral colos run the BGP / multihoming for you or do you generally have to do it yourself on your own router from the multiple feeds they'd cross connect to you? And if they will do it, generally what do they charge for 'multihoming' you?
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03-03-2004, 05:49 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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Mfjp,
Who is considered a carrier DC? Do you mean a not carrier nuetral datacenter, and not a dc owned by a single host?
Thanks, Kyle