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  1. #1
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    Beware of this guy FRAUD

    We have had several order placed by this guy. The emails address they use is vaild but all the other information is stolen.

    The IP they use is a proxy somewhere is ASIA.

    DO NOT SELL TO THESE PEOPLE! YOU WILL GET BURNED !


    IP ADDRESS IS 203.208.185.107 Order Info
    Operating System: FreeBSD 4.8 Stable
    Processor: Intel Celeron 2.0 Ghz
    Hard Drive: 40 GB HD 7,200 RPM
    RAM: 512 MB DDR RAM
    Bandwidth: 100 GB Monthly
    Setup Fee: $59.00
    Monthly Fee: $
    User Info
    First Name: jack
    Last Name: seefna
    Company:
    E-mail Address: moezsajwani@cyberhosters.com
    Phone Number: 2346135672
    Address: Chandni Chawk
    City: Dragon City
    State: DE
    Zip Code: 23562

  2. #2
    reading 202, 203 or 61 in IP is enoughf reason to cancel any order!

  3. #3
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    Originally posted by 2Mhost
    reading 202, 203 or 61 in IP is enoughf reason to cancel any order!
    care to elaborate?
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  4. #4
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    THey are on the RIPE network. Its almost impossible to track anything down there.

    Here is another order they submitted, but they spoffed the IP as ATT.



    Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 11:50:16 -0500
    From: Susanne Neely <toughees99@yahoo.com>
    To: sales@digitalprinceton.net
    Subject: Dedicated Premade Plan (classic) All headers

    IP ADDRESS IS 12.158.56.226 Order Info
    Operating System: FreeBSD 4.8 Stable
    Processor: Intel Celeron 2.0 Ghz
    Hard Drive: 40 GB HD 7,200 RPM
    RAM: 512 MB DDR RAM
    Bandwidth: 100 GB Monthly
    Setup Fee: $59.00
    Monthly Fee: $
    User Info
    First Name: Susanne
    Last Name: Neely
    Company: none
    E-mail Address: toughees99@yahoo.com
    Phone Number: 930-492-6626
    Address: 9411 Twilight Lane
    City: Lenexa
    State: KS
    Zip Code: 66219

  5. #5
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    Originally posted by 2Mhost
    reading 202, 203 or 61 in IP is enoughf reason to cancel any order!
    So you cancel orders from Australia, New Zealand and the Pacific Islands that also use those IP ranges? (which evidently have the some of the lowest fraud rates in the world)

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    I guess he just doesnt want business from those places then.
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    No what I think they are saying is they cancel someone's account that says they are from Kansas when they are not from Kansas.
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  8. #8
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    I fell on the floor laughing when we got this back from them.


    cannot do that if u can process my order without that
    mail me the payment link to pay ...
    thats what i can do if u agree then do
    or cancel my order

    thanks


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    609.921.6204 to confirm your order.

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  9. #9
    I see you discriminate. Tsk tsk tsk!

    Originally posted by 2Mhost
    reading 202, 203 or 61 in IP is enoughf reason to cancel any order!

  10. #10
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    Crikey, if that's discrimination then I'm Hitler!

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    As it happens, I sleep much easier now our instances of fraud have dropped by 95%. And we still accept Australians and New Zealanders

    Kevin

  11. #11
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    Hey Kevin. what is that long list? IP's you run from screaming? Are those on the RIPE net you suggested was painful to track?


    How does someone 'get burned' hosting to someone like that?

    Total newbie...sorry if that seems like a dumb question. Do you mean they reverse their payment or go over their bandwidth and refuse to pay etc.?
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  12. #12
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    I don't run away from anything, let alone run off screaming; instead I find the problem and deal with it. If I ran off, then WorldPay would be making an awful lot more money from us in chargebacks every month.

    I don't know if they're on RIPE or not - all I know is that these are IPs and IP subnets have attempted to defraud our company or other reputable hosts who have shared their experiences on this very topic.

    How can you get burned? Quite a few ways really:

    1. Chargeback fees
    2. Erroneous domain registration
    3. Propensity for SPAM operations to emanate from your servers.
    4. Possibility of losing merchant account
    5. Accounting nightmare - gotta love the tax man

    Please remember that the above only applies to those who try to defraud us. Going over bandwidth allocations could only happen to a bona-fide, existing client and even then we communicate with the client as to address this situation before it arises (extra bandwidth etc.)

    Lastly, there's no such thing as a dumb question. It'd be dumber to live in ignorance.

    Kevin

  13. #13
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    Originally posted by kckclass
    Hey Kevin. what is that long list? IP's you run from screaming? Are those on the RIPE net you suggested was painful to track?


    How does someone 'get burned' hosting to someone like that?

    Total newbie...sorry if that seems like a dumb question. Do you mean they reverse their payment or go over their bandwidth and refuse to pay etc.?
    If I get an order with a 218 IP I immediately delete the pending order. 9 times out of 10 it's a fraud.
    He arose!

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    Originally posted by H-U.net
    Crikey, if that's discrimination then I'm Hitler!

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    As it happens, I sleep much easier now our instances of fraud have dropped by 95%. And we still accept Australians and New Zealanders

    Kevin
    Your list just blocked me and most of the comcast users in Maryland USA
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  15. #15
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    Originally posted by H-U.net
    I don't run away from anything, let alone run off screaming; instead I find the problem and deal with it. If I ran off, then WorldPay would be making an awful lot more money from us in chargebacks every month.

    I don't know if they're on RIPE or not - all I know is that these are IPs and IP subnets have attempted to defraud our company or other reputable hosts who have shared their experiences on this very topic.

    How can you get burned? Quite a few ways really:

    1. Chargeback fees
    2. Erroneous domain registration
    3. Propensity for SPAM operations to emanate from your servers.
    4. Possibility of losing merchant account
    5. Accounting nightmare - gotta love the tax man

    Please remember that the above only applies to those who try to defraud us. Going over bandwidth allocations could only happen to a bona-fide, existing client and even then we communicate with the client as to address this situation before it arises (extra bandwidth etc.)

    Lastly, there's no such thing as a dumb question. It'd be dumber to live in ignorance.

    Kevin
    Then there's the people who pay for hosting, get a few months out of it, then order a charge back.
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