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Old 01-21-2004, 03:15 PM
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Freebsd vs Redhat Enterprise


Im getting crazy with apache on 1 server on redhat, im hitting a load of 7, my apache is configured good, and the output is 3-5 mbit in peak hours so its big traffic.

my question is, i need to host more sites, and a load of 7 is big offcourse but what if i install freebsd instead of redhat enterprise, is it working better with less load?

i read alot of stories about freebsd, but i want to know if its worth to reinstall the server with it.

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Old 01-22-2004, 12:52 AM
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how much power do you have?

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Old 01-22-2004, 01:59 AM
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Well your server should be able to push that amount of traffic with no problem are the sites hosted on the machine DB intensive? What else is running on this machine? have you tried tuning your mysql config? how do you know your apache config is "good"?

FreeBSD does generally handle high loads better than linux however if you dont know the reason for the high load why put yourself through the hassle of a reload?

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Old 01-23-2004, 02:43 AM
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we are always increasing huge, whats the best os then?

i just want to know which one is better for alot of visitors on the webserver > 250000 a day.

i did test freebsd on a server today, and i can open 900 apache proccesses without huge load with the same file.

and my another server the max is 256 and then im getting a load of 2-3

and freebsd load of 0.12, i just want to know, What are the biggest sites running for os?

redhat isnt really a server version, its made for desktops.

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Old 01-23-2004, 02:47 AM
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Go with freebsd.

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Old 01-23-2004, 04:34 AM
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BTW: lower load average is not one advantage of FreeBSD . There are many, many more important reasons for choosing FreeBSD.


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Old 01-23-2004, 09:03 AM
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"my apache is configured good"
Can you elaborate?

FreeBSD is preferred over linux in a server enviornment, by experienced users of both.

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Old 01-23-2004, 09:16 AM
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We changed all our servers to FreeBSD last month, and all loads dropped on them considerably, in some cases by well over 300% with no other changes. We are much happier with the security and stability found on FreeBSD, and the learning curve from RedHat is not too great.

From my point of view, I would suggest you would be well advised to consider FreeBSD as an option here.

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Old 01-23-2004, 09:19 AM
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How about the command line ? How different are them ?

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Old 01-23-2004, 09:39 AM
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Considering both use open source tools in the OS, general user commnads are no different. The only time you notice things are very different is when you are digging around the high level OS such as your kernel, your startup scripts, firewalling etc.

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Old 01-23-2004, 01:04 PM
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FreeBSD is a very nice server system, i'd also use Debian or Gentoo in server situations aswell

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Old 01-23-2004, 05:54 PM
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Thats why im going to move to freebsd.

people the only program is im running plesk, is apache 1.3.27 good enough with freebsd, my test said to me its ok, can finnaly get more than 500 visitors at the same moment.

on my old server i had a load of 4 when i did do the same test with 100 visitors. redhat sucks.

and what about standard security, i hear freebsd is good, so no ****ing around with the kernel? is freebsd 4.8 secured? or can i better install freebsd 4.9?

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Old 01-23-2004, 05:58 PM
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apache 1.3.27 is an old and vulnerable version unless you've actually patched the source I'd look at upgrading to 1.3.29.

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Old 01-23-2004, 06:02 PM
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If you're going to be installing from a FreeBSD CD, you'll need to update your kernel and various other system binaries as there have been patches released since the CD was printed or the ISO was made.

Having said that the kernel is really easy to compile as is the "make world" process (check the freebsd handbook for more info on make world) I've never had a kernel fail to boot if it compiled without any errors.

If you want to squeeze the machine for performance you should still compile a custom kernel.

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Old 01-23-2004, 06:26 PM
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So where can i get the NEWEST kernel?

apache and the rest is patched by plesk. so thats nothing for me, but im thinking to remove plesk and install my own software.

i did always install the kernel from redhat, but where can i get a kernel from UNIX for FREEBSD?

or is the "make world" enough?

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