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Old 10-05-2001, 01:14 PM
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EFS - good for colocating?


I'm going to colocate with EFS.

I will get a leased server at www.penguincomputing.com or somewhere else (can you recommend something?) and want to colocate if at EFS.

I like them because of $1/gig. I'm going to make 300-500 gigs of BW.

But I also need a REAL 24*7 support and as far as I know EFS has some problems with the support...

Reading this forum I saw lots of oppinions (good and bad) about their services, but how are they now?

As far as I know they are connected via Level3.


In general:
Compearing to other companies - how's EFS? Their prices are great but is this the only reasion to love them?

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Old 10-05-2001, 01:31 PM
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theve

Theve had terrible lengths of downtime lately, in addition i hear their using cogent which is the cheapest bottom of the barrel bandwidth provider out there.

I think they used to be good, but all ive heard lately is bad things, theres a couple of threads just do a search on them.

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Old 10-05-2001, 01:57 PM
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Hey Steve,

Well the saying is, you get what you pay for. You should take a look at some recent postings about them:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=22655

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=22339

Hope that helps!

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Old 10-05-2001, 02:04 PM
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cogent which is the cheapest bottom of the barrel bandwidth provider out there
What do you base this on? They do not push bandwidth traditionally. They use IP over Fiber Optics technology, meaning you get direct ethernet drops. I really wouldn't call them bottom of the barrel for doing something different. It is too new to say it is crap (bottom of the barrel).

Also, back in August you said you were getting Cogent drops, did you? How are they working out?

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Old 10-05-2001, 02:26 PM
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Actually cogent is basically bottom of the barrel they only peer with one company above.net which makes them as i said bottom of the barrel, they have purchased netrail which should allow them to peer with additional providers then they would be a viable choice, we do have connectivity to cogent but our not advertising service to them until i see additional peering...

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Old 10-05-2001, 03:14 PM
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Re: actually

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Actually cogent is basically bottom of the barrel they only peer with one company above.net
cbaker, where are you getting this information from? I have personally seen traceroutes going from uu.net to cogentco, and also from home.net to cogentco. They may have only peered with above.net at first, but they certainly do have more peering than that now.

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Old 10-05-2001, 04:37 PM
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as i said

As i said in my above post that with the acquisition of netrail, they will start peering with other people...

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Old 10-05-2001, 04:56 PM
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Re: as i said

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Originally posted by cbaker17
As i said in my above post that with the acquisition of netrail, they will start peering with other people...
They have been peering with Verio/Sprint/Above.net Before this acquisition.

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Old 10-05-2001, 05:11 PM
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Not in the markets ive been following, they may be in certain markets but not network wide.... the 2 markets im watching they only peer with above.net and ive run extensive test, a lone peering arranagment is not acceptable to me or my customers which is why im looking forward to the netrail accquisition.

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Old 10-06-2001, 12:21 AM
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Re: theve

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Originally posted by cbaker17
Theve had terrible lengths of downtime lately, in addition i hear their using cogent which is the cheapest bottom of the barrel bandwidth provider out there.

I think they used to be good, but all ive heard lately is bad things, theres a couple of threads just do a search on them.
Yes, I agree that there are lots of posts here, sayig bad things about them. BUT as far as I know they just "brought in a second 100 mb/s line and needed to set up BGP / multi-home routing to ensure network redundancy".

I mean that EFS is a big and pretty known company so I belive all these downtimes were temporary and they will fix it.

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Old 10-06-2001, 12:28 AM
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Hey Steve,

Well the saying is, you get what you pay for. You should take a look at some recent postings about them:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=22655

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...threadid=22339

Hope that helps!
I read it. My position is that every company has downtimes while upgrading hardware or/and connection.

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Old 10-06-2001, 12:29 AM
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Actually EFS is not a big company and their not all that well known, i too have heard they were bringing in lines for redundancy but wouldnt that stop downtime, not make it worse.

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Old 10-06-2001, 12:37 AM
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how abpout the support?

how's their support?
Is it REAL 24*7?

Does anyone has an experience contacting them?

BTW, do they really charge $100 for installing an additional HDD (for example) into my server?


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Old 10-08-2001, 06:17 PM
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Re: how abpout the support?

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BTW, do they really charge $100 for installing an additional HDD (for example) into my server?
If they say there are going to charge a fee I am sure they do.

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Old 10-08-2001, 09:25 PM
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Re: how abpout the support?

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BTW, do they really charge $100 for installing an additional HDD (for example) into my server?
Their business model seems to be one where they get you in the door cheap but add-ons and services get pricey, thus making up the profits on the back-end. Makes sense to some degree, but you should cost out your projected needs over, say, a one-year term and compare those costs to a more traditional colo arrangement. Does all that $100 go toward a drive installation? Of course not: part of it, if not most of it, goes to offset the buy-down rate you're getting on bandwidth, rackspace, etc.

No insider info here, just my observation.

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