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Old 01-16-2004, 03:11 AM
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Need to use my credit card for upgrade payment, no SSL, will it be safe?


Hello all,

I signed up e-insites, and I plan to upgrade through there control panel cwipanel. Problem is I noticed they require me the whole credit card number and CW2 numbers, is this safe?

I asked them about this and they said that due to how the control panel was made, this is not possible....

What do you guys think?

Scout



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Old 01-16-2004, 03:22 AM
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without SSL, Ouch!!! I would call them and give the numbers over the phone before I typed anything in an unsecured area.

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Old 01-16-2004, 03:31 AM
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The fact that you are asking means you shouldn't. If you don't feel safe then don't use that option to purchase. Fax it or phone it in.

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Old 01-16-2004, 03:37 AM
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Even with SSL, some people think that it is insecured. A business without SSL, its BS. I won't even try it.

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Old 01-16-2004, 03:56 AM
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Absolutely Not Safe!

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Old 01-16-2004, 04:11 AM
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I would not try it at all. Like UltraUnixNET stated, a business without SSL is BS.

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Old 01-16-2004, 04:39 AM
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Hey Scout,

We have another place to do this. Log in at https://www.e-insites.com/support/

We have not made the control panel SSL ready as yet. We will have certs installed on the panel this week.

Regards,

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Old 01-16-2004, 04:59 AM
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Where? I only update in billing information and ticket support...

and you mean you already set that up on the control panel knowing its not secure? what if someone who has no Exp, logs in and signs up?

I know occurences like these are rare, but man it can kill!

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Old 01-16-2004, 05:05 AM
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We did our panel much like CPanel, on non standard ports, and with no billing stuff on it. It will work with SSL and always could, it just has not had a certificate installed on it as yet. The certs will be installed by Monday.

If someone knew your username and password to be able to log in, then there just having an SSL cert on the site would not matter since they have the username and password. The only way to log in is with these usernames and passwords. We store those on servers that are not public servers and only seen on our internal network.

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Old 01-16-2004, 05:05 AM
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Oh, whoops forgot to reply about the renew account link. Apparently it is not on that site, so wait until Monday for the certs to be installed. They may be done by tomorrow as well. I will let you know.

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Old 01-16-2004, 05:10 AM
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Well, I submitted my credit card info onto your secured trouble ticket through the billing department, please check. thanks..

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Old 01-16-2004, 01:37 PM
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Re: Need to use my credit card for upgrade payment, no SSL, will it be safe?

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Originally posted by Scout
Hello all,

I signed up e-insites, and I plan to upgrade through there control panel cwipanel. Problem is I noticed they require me the whole credit card number and CW2 numbers, is this safe?

I asked them about this and they said that due to how the control panel was made, this is not possible....

What do you guys think?

Scout
NO!

Not only is it not safe, it is against VISA and MasterCard regulations for them to be accepting card information in this manner. If they are too cheap to buy an SSL certificate, I doubt very much they have any other security measures in place.

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Old 01-16-2004, 06:28 PM
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Hi Steve,

When did this post become about us being cheap. That was certainly uncalled for. We have over 20 SSL certs for our sites and servers. It was just that the control panel for resellers mistakenly had billing stuff integrated before we had the SSL installed on the control panel sites for resellers. Also if you actually read the post you would see that we contacted the customer and replied to them and let them know it would be solved, so the post needed no more input.

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Old 01-16-2004, 07:00 PM
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When did this post become about us being cheap. That was certainly uncalled for.
Sorry for the reference to cheap and I should have read the entire chain prior to posting. In my defense, most threads related to no SSL cert boil down to someone not wanting to spend the money to get a cert and if they don't think a cert is worth the price, how much value do they place on overall security?

Anyway, sorry for the reference to cheap.

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Old 01-16-2004, 10:29 PM
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Hi alfturtle, your support still insisted that I go to the control panel to upgrade my account, can you please check on that? Coz I really need more IP's by monday ASAP...

thanks

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