
12-23-2003, 07:05 PM
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How Reliable Is PaySystems?
I am getting a merchant account soon and although I was leaning towards a proper/real merchant account becuase of reliabilty I have been put off by the enormous costs considering i'm outside the US.
From third party processors I need to decide between 2checkout and PaySystems. I am pretty confident about 2checkout's reliabilty however since it seems that PaySystems has recently reduced its rates it has become more attractive to me.
I would like your opinion of PaySystems whether its reliable or not as I have have already had accounts with HostCharge and Instabill when they crashed and burned and I don't want to repeat that.
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12-23-2003, 07:12 PM
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2CO is better in my opinion.
Btw, the new paysystems rates are just a trick to get you tempted. Read the fine print carefully.
I think the rates are still 3.95% + $1 OR 5.5% + 35 cents
Just my 2 cents.
Thanks.
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12-23-2003, 08:09 PM
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Paysystems has been around for some time - pretty stable. If you have a US bank Account & a Federak tax ID number - you are able to get a merchant account as well. There is another active thread in this forum that just started about obtaining a merchant account while overseas.
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12-23-2003, 08:53 PM
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Problem with getting a US Tax ID or Incorporatig for me is that I would have to pay US taxes.
In Pakistan there is a decade long tax holiday for IT related companies.
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12-23-2003, 08:57 PM
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Paysystems have peaks and troughs. They are fairly stable but support can sometimes be fairly poor and the MCC has slow days.
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12-23-2003, 09:02 PM
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Consider incorporating in Delaware.
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12-23-2003, 09:03 PM
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even in Delaware or Nevada I would still have to pay Federal taxes.
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12-23-2003, 10:39 PM
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I'm in the same position. I was going to go with paysystems, but I decided that I'll probably go with 2checkout. Reason is because I want to customize the payment page to reflect my own design.
RMF
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12-24-2003, 04:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by UH-Matt
Paysystems have peaks and troughs. They are fairly stable but support can sometimes be fairly poor and the MCC has slow days.
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Although since the MCC upgrades, the MCC is much faster. I do a LOT of searching through the MCC database, and it's 5 times faster now. 
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12-24-2003, 05:14 AM
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You would of course want to check things out with a tax person but one way may be to incorporate in the US and then not have it earn any profit -- have it subcontract your pakistan corporation.
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12-24-2003, 09:16 AM
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Go to Nauru or Vanuatu arrange an offshore shell compagny with phony administration board. Go to Lichtenstein open a secret bank account. Get a Guernesey branch office where you bring your profits and have residence in Bahamas next to a pool with young half naked beautiful belly dancers.
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Now, seriously, what are you trying to do?? Evade Tax? Do "edgy" business?? worse?? It is not James Bond guys!!
Keep it simple.
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12-24-2003, 09:28 PM
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There is nothing wrong or shady about what I described andits not even an uncommon setup!
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12-25-2003, 04:54 AM
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They had their share if problems, but they ahve been pretty sable for almost a year (early 2003 is the time they had some problems with databses and MCC).
Overall, I think they are better than the other companies I looked at.
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