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Old 12-01-2003, 12:06 PM
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Anyone know of a SSL security KEY you can IMPORT ON YOUR BROWSER to give you 100% security on every page????? (So the lock shows up on every page)

Im kinda being sniffed by hackers and i wanna TRY and get away from them if i can...........

I would think there has gotta be a LOCAL key you can import to do this.......

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Old 12-01-2003, 12:19 PM
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That would be impossible. If the server is not expecting a SSL connection, having a local one will not iniatiate it on the server side.

At least that's what I think.

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Old 12-01-2003, 12:37 PM
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Well,

If i can stop them from sniffing between ME and the NET,that would be good to........(Im on cable modem now,but still they may be able to sniff there somehow,i dunno,im just looking for answers!!)

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Old 12-01-2003, 12:45 PM
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In order to have a secure connection, both local user and server must perform the encryption/decryption. Where are you concerned about being packet sniffed? Between you and your ISP? Between your ISP and the server?

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Old 12-01-2003, 12:54 PM
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If you are concerned of your connection between you and your ISP, you can always use a SSH tunnel.

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Old 12-01-2003, 02:08 PM
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Well,

I really need to get off the ISp im on,but seeing as my parants are paying for it,its not too likely

An SSH tunnel would be good...

YES,i wanna encrypt everything somehow less going to a new ISP....

Not that big a deal,but i thought there would be a way to do it......

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Old 12-01-2003, 02:38 PM
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There is a way...SSH tunneling...just get any SSH friendly host and you are all set up.

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Old 12-01-2003, 02:40 PM
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There is a way...SSH tunneling...just get any SSH friendly host and you are all set up.

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Old 12-01-2003, 02:49 PM
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I see. Well, in order to encrypt the information (as per previous post), both the server and the local computer must support the encryption methods. So... if you had a server setup on the Internet for example, you could setup a secure connection to that server (using a variety of methods) and then use that point as your jump off point. This would encrypt data between you and your ISP all the way up to the server providing the tunnel.

But... after the connection leaves that server, your data is not encrypted.

Example:
You work for a company who provides secure access. You're from home and you connect into the office. Your connection is secure from your house all the way to your office. However, if you decide to access informaiton outside of your office, (say... visit Yahoo or Microsoft), then somebody could look at the information between your office and that server.

I drew a pic and attached it for you. Hope this helps.
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File Type: jpg secure diagram.jpg (54.6 KB, 70 views)

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Old 12-01-2003, 02:57 PM
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What he could do though, is tunnel to a proxy server he has setup somewhere... Wouldn't that work?

Er... Ignore me. I am tired

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Old 12-01-2003, 02:59 PM
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Yes. That's kind of what my last post described. Sometimes though (not all) proxy servers redirect traffic and don't necessarily encrypt it. You could replace the VPN server in my diagram on the previous post with a Proxy server and the same idea would apply. That is... as long as the proxy server is using encryption.

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Old 12-01-2003, 04:10 PM
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I think the best idea is to ssh tunnel to another machine outside of your ISP. Thus securing the traffic you are sending/receiving on your local ISP.

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Old 12-01-2003, 04:15 PM
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If he's connected to his ISP, then connecting to an alternate location will still put him through the gateway of the ISP, no matter what.

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Old 12-01-2003, 04:20 PM
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Yes, but if he is ssh tunnelling into another server/proxy, and surfs from there, the hackers sniffing his connection will only see the encrypted traffic coming to/from him and the proxy, as unencrypted data will be passed from the proxy to him via the ssh tunnel which is encrypted.

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Old 12-01-2003, 04:33 PM
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Right. See my previous post with diagram.

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