View Poll Results: Pay to post into the "Web Hosting Offers" forum
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11-26-2003, 11:35 AM #51Web Hosting Master
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People are getting upset over a DISCUSSION about an idea... If you dont like the idea then present your views as to why its a bad idea... no need to cry about it and then leave the forums.Denver Hunter | Webmaster | Library of Biz - Side Hustles, Small Business & Professional Growth0
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11-26-2003, 11:38 AM #52Web Hosting Master
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I have updated the title of Bob’s thread and the question on the poll to reflect the new name we just gave the section
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11-26-2003, 11:39 AM #53Web Hosting Master
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Rochen I just noticed all the other subsections are split with /'s.
Except:
Related Offers and Requests
Employment Templates Other
Shouldnt that be:
Related Offers and Requests
Employment / Templates / Other
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11-26-2003, 11:40 AM #54Web Hosting Master
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Hello, Picky
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11-26-2003, 11:41 AM #55Web Hosting Master
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Well things have to be pretty around here.
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11-26-2003, 11:41 AM #56Web Hosting Master
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Yeah, it's because the MySQL field can't hold enough information to fit the “/” in. I am waiting for someone with higher powers to change the field type on the database
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11-26-2003, 11:42 AM #57Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by anon-e-mouse
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11-26-2003, 11:46 AM #58Disabled
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I don't see anywhere where there is talk of making this a paid community. All that is being suggested is that hosts pay for advertising. Just like in the real world.
The owners of WHT have every right to generate revenue since they are the ones who paid a very substantial sum for the forum and continue to pay a substantial sum for the maintanence of the forum.0
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11-26-2003, 11:49 AM #59Web Hosting God
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Then maybe they can pay their moderators.
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11-26-2003, 11:50 AM #60Web Hosting Master
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In response to that, I'll just direct you to the advertising page and then point out the number of banners that this place has at the top and bottom.
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11-26-2003, 11:51 AM #61Newbie
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One possible suggestion.
One model that might be worth considering is one I've seen used in a lot of social forums. It's the concept where you get points or "forum money" for doing certain things - like posting in particular forums. Might be useful to enable points for posts in the main forum, which could then be spent on posts in the offers forum. Points could also be bought for cash.
That way the contributors to the main forums get a reward for their contributions, and those who only want to advertise can provide support in another fashion. That would also give startups a way to earn a place with sweat equity.0
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11-26-2003, 11:53 AM #62Junior Guru
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Pay or not is a secondary question for all of us on both *sides* of the fence.
What *sort* of community do we want is really the issue in contention here.
This IS a profitable community and will continue to be regardless of the decisions made here.
A Yes or a No will not change that fact/
The idea of advertising does not trouble me. The attitudes about community I am hearing hear do trouble me.
"Goodbye Weed" for example. What happened to the respect rule?
And "Bottom feeders" for all those businesses below who are starting out and gain customers here
Those are ways of relating to others I find troubling.
What seems right in the concerns is that those with the concerns would like to see more of a committment to the community from those who benefit economically
Why not combine the advertising and open source models here?
What if ONLY members of WHT could post in the advertising forums and have signatures on their posts
AND we did not charge for advertising but made it a benefit of membership
And yet charged an amount that would be really easy for anyone to pay--say $5 for a month or $50 per year
This would not eliminate even really strapped folks...but would eliminate a lot of those in the problem category.
In addition with membership people could post as now once a week in the advertising forums...but only once a month in hosting forums.
However rights could go up to weekly depending on number of posts made outside that forum
In this way advertising would indeed be a perk of membership and more frequent hosting advertising a privilegde that red real and actve participation beyond "hosting requests"
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11-26-2003, 11:53 AM #63Disabled
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Originally posted by CrazyTech
In response to that, I'll just direct you to the advertising page and then point out the number of banners that this place has at the top and bottom.0
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11-26-2003, 11:56 AM #64Web Hosting Master
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I don't really see how that is relavent. If I have a business that is making money and I add ways to make more money is that a bad thing?
To me, the fact that this is a Community Forum would make it a bad thing. Perhaps we do not see things eye to eye, but that's my viewpoint on the issue. It all starts with baby steps, and I just do not want to see this place get to the point of paying for a subscription.Denver Hunter | Webmaster | Library of Biz - Side Hustles, Small Business & Professional Growth0
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11-26-2003, 11:56 AM #65Web Hosting Master
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Personally - if I owned the forums, I'd do away with the ad forum and limit sigs to 2 lines. But I don't own the forums - so I can't do that
And since I don't, my personal opinion would be to keep the ads forums free, with a paid option.
Ie *if* we still had the requests forums, paid posters would have their posts above the free posters, or paid posters could post more (using a credit system like dennis said).
Also, i think $100/month would be a bit too expensive.
....my opinion only of course
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General Comment:
For those of you who say things like "Teh requests forums is where I made most of my customers" or, "I advertise in the forums at WHT", etc. Remember that WHT is not a place to advertise - it's a bonus. Unfortunately that bonus over the past few months has been filling with scammers that operate on the "newbie" type. That is our main concern down there.
Now I'm not going to tell you, "If your business is based on the requests forums here, then change your business plan" or anything like that....my simple point is, if your business is based on WHT, then why leave? It's the common perception that the more posts one has, the more popular they are - post at WHT more, discuss more, contribute more, and you'll find that it really is a good resource that can benefit your business.
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11-26-2003, 11:58 AM #66Junior Guru
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CTS--
Sounds like we are on a similar track.
The only thing I would suggest on your model would be that contributions in the advertising forums where we offer free space for folks or help keep them clean by asking people to post urls of their work and so forth should count as contributions to this community as well
Too ridis a distinction advertising/npot looses some of this communities strength...
The ability to barter services and skills and assist one another is something some of us really value about the advertising forums
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11-26-2003, 12:00 PM #67Web Hosting Master
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For those of you who say things like "Teh requests forums is where I made most of my customers" or, "I advertise in the forums at WHT", etc. Remember that WHT is not a place to advertise - it's a bonus. Unfortunately that bonus over the past few months has been filling with scammers that operate on the "newbie" type. That is our main concern down there.
Now I'm not going to tell you, "If your business is based on the requests forums here, then change your business plan" or anything like that....my simple point is, if your business is based on WHT, then why leave? It's the common perception that the more posts one has, the more popular they are - post at WHT more, discuss more, contribute more, and you'll find that it really is a good resource.Denver Hunter | Webmaster | Library of Biz - Side Hustles, Small Business & Professional Growth0
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11-26-2003, 12:03 PM #68Web Hosting Master
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Akash, great post of yours there. Lots of good discussion and interaction in this thread. Great stuff!
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11-26-2003, 12:20 PM #69Disabled
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Re: One possible suggestion.
Originally posted by cts
One model that might be worth considering is one I've seen used in a lot of social forums. It's the concept where you get points or "forum money" for doing certain things - like posting in particular forums. Might be useful to enable points for posts in the main forum, which could then be spent on posts in the offers forum. Points could also be bought for cash.0
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11-26-2003, 12:21 PM #70Web Hosting Master
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Re: Re: One possible suggestion.
Originally posted by blue27
In theory this is a very good idea, unfortunately, in practice it leads to a large amount of irrelevent and empty posts by people who are trying to build up their forum "credit".• WLVPN.com • NetProtect owned White Label VPN provider •
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11-26-2003, 01:40 PM #71Web Hosting Master
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Why does charging hosts to pay for posting @ the offer forum help to improve the flooding and quality of the forum? Everyone has money and they can spend them on advertising here. Why not set a higher limit of the number of posts the offer forums can created? Money isn't everything in my opinion~
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11-26-2003, 02:15 PM #72Web Hosting Master
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I'm all for it. In my opinion, WHT has turned into a resource for ultra-budget hosts and scammers to prey on cheap and uninformed consumers. I, for one, will NOT go to the offers forum in its current state. I only see posts from a bunch of nobody's I've NEVER seen post in the Main or Other forums. It would be truely nice to see offers from companies I've actually heard of from time to time, and I think charging a fee would do just that.
Deciding to remove the Requests and Free forums was a really great thing, and I think this is the next best step.0
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11-26-2003, 02:17 PM #73Web Hosting Master
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How about doing an eBay bid? Let's say we put like 5 offers per week in this forum. There is a bid and people are bidding for the ad. This way:
1. You'll get people to see it without dropping to the bottom
2. It will limit the kiddie hosts without a CC
3. Everyone will be happy
How about that?Charles Beliveau | NymixWeb.com
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11-26-2003, 02:26 PM #74Web Hosting Master
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Too complicated. "If" pay per post is to happen it needs to be simple.
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11-26-2003, 02:27 PM #75Web Developer
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UltimeWWW: So people just bid on each of the five ads? That would eliminate anyone with a small budget. I mean, you could easily pay for all five ads and outbid me by a hundred dollars. That basically reserves it for the top five hosts with the largest advertising budget. A good idea, but flawed from the way I view it.
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