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[benwell]

Hi, I rent Raq space at RedBus Interhouse and have chosen a provider for bandwidth.

I now would like to have my very own IP address block. so i can have more control over IP address for my servers.

Do i need to be come a member of Ripe.net before they will give me a block of IP addresses?

Any advise would be welcomed

[XLHost]

You should go to http://www.arin.net, first thing you'll need is a POC, start there.

-Drew

[benwell]

I am in the UK, so i need to use www.ripe.net but they dont give any good info on how to start the process

[XLHost]

I found this in 2 seconds on their website:

http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/tips/index.html

it explains exactly how to get an AS# and IP space

[ericabiz]

If you're looking for less than 4000 IP addresses, just ask your bandwidth provider. I am not sure about RIPE, but last time I checked with ARIN, the minimum number of IP addresses they would give out was 4096. If you want less, you're supposed to go through your upstream provider(s).

[Mfjp]

I think RIPE and APNIC would do micro assignemnts, such as /22 and /23 last I check if you have your reasons for it.

[benwell]

The only reasion that i want my own address block is so i can have our Name on the IP whois

Our bandwidth provider can provide us with ip address as and when required but thats about it

[Papa Smurff]

Originally posted by benwell
The only reasion that i want my own address block is so i can have our Name on the IP whois

Our bandwidth provider can provide us with ip address as and when required but thats about it

If that's the case your provider should be able to SWIP/Register them to you. If they can't then:
1. They don't know how to do that.
2. Their upstream "reassigned" them IP space instead of "allocating" them IP space. People who have "reassigned" IP space cannot SWIP/register that space to users. People who have "allocated" IP space can.

Please read this page:
http://www.arin.net/library/guidelines/swip.html

[astutiumRob]

Originally posted by benwell
The only reasion that i want my own address block is so i can have our Name on the IP whois

RIPE wont accept that as justification to allocate you your own IP's - you'll be "instructed" to go to your upstream.

AFAICR the only way to get PI space is either have own AS# and be multihomed through multiple upstreams or to becoem a RIPE member LIR and get you're own PA assignments.

[IRCCo Jeff]

I believe the ARIN policy for co-located companies is that the company must first obtain IPs from their upstream. Once they have reached or exceeded 16 Class Cs they may request from ARIN and then must return the old blocks to their upstream (Can we say pain in the rear )

[Papa Smurff]

Originally posted by DeathNova
I believe the ARIN policy for co-located companies is that the company must first obtain IPs from their upstream. Once they have reached or exceeded 16 Class Cs they may request from ARIN and then must return the old blocks to their upstream (Can we say pain in the rear )

Correction: Utilization of 8 Class C's or /24's required before ARIN will give up a /20

[haesu]

It is a pain in the *** process, but everyone sucks it up and does it. So why shouldn't you? :-)

We're getting our own block from ARIN soon, and we gonna have to renumber lots of customers out of old block we have been reallocated from upstream... Yes its pain in the *** to go into politics of having customers change stuff, but too bad that's the way it works

Oh and did I say, our DNS servers moving into new IP space. I can only imagine customers moaning and screaming having to change TCP/IP settings on hundreds of their computers. How pitiful for those who don't use DHCP on their campus.

-hc

[demonmoo]

Something important to note about the truly micro allocations is that some times they arent world routable.
The true micro allocations are intended for use at public peering points (for the routers there) and other things wich dont need to be world routable .
Be fore warned
Also , get your own AS number (become multi homed , even if its only a small secondary link) and just get them to sub-delagte the IP address space to you .
This wont have your company listed as primary , but when they do the whois on the IP your company will come up as well :-)
BTW : best of luck with your business

[IRCCo Jeff]

A /20 isn't a micro allocation?

[Knogle]

I think a /20 already exceeds what you call "micro", DN.