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Old 11-11-2003, 03:02 PM
BoatDan BoatDan is offline
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Used over my limit of space?


One of the hosts I use has told me that I have used my 45 megs of space. When I do a total backup, file by file, as well as add up all my totals I get around 30 megs. Where is he getting that I am over?

I have frontpage usage, etc.

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Old 11-11-2003, 03:10 PM
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hmm when you download it was it gzip?

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Old 11-11-2003, 03:21 PM
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Nope straight file by file. No compression.

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Old 11-11-2003, 03:25 PM
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There is a difference on hard drive space and what host claim is Allocation (I believe is the term). Basically, I can't explain, maybe someone else can... but a website on your hard drive is smaller than when you load it up to your website (allocation)... I don't understand why or how... I guess it also has to do with e-mail space and if you have web stat programs, etc... stuff you don't think about.

My host explained it to me... and it made sense... ask your host to explain... or maybe some of the good host on this board will ping in.

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Old 11-11-2003, 03:27 PM
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Maybe your host counts your logs with your space I know some do. Also check your email and see if you have some large attachments or alot of email.

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Old 11-12-2003, 12:44 AM
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My hosting is being pretty cool about giving me some answers on this. Here's what they said:

What happens is the block size. Each file will use a full multiple of blocks.
So the size your PC shows need not match the server.

I'm not quite sure what it means, let me know if it makes sense.

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Old 11-12-2003, 01:15 AM
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Originally posted by BoatDan
I'm not quite sure what it means, let me know if it makes sense.
It does, but probably not a 15BM discrepancy. You mentioned you have downloaded each file...does that include all the Frontpage "_" folders? They keep a small copy of each file you "Publish". As Marcus said, you also have to take log files, email and databases in to consideration when comparing the size of your "site" to how much space it takes up on a server.

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Old 11-12-2003, 09:31 AM
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Hi,

Thanks for the help.

Here is the full message they sent:

"Your xxx folder is taking around 40MB
and out of that 32MB is being used by xxx/Html/images
Hope this helps."

"You have 21MB of files and _vti_cnf folder used by FrontPage has 11MB What happens is the block size. Each file will use a full multiple of blocks. So the size your PC shows need not match the server."

But when I go to the xxx/Html/images folder I get a total of 14.99 Meg NOT 21 and the _vti_cnf folder has .5 Meg NOT 11.

Is there something on their side that I do not see?

Thanks.

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Old 11-12-2003, 09:47 AM
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Ask for a copy of du -h to be piped to a text file in your Html folder.

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Old 11-12-2003, 10:48 AM
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Editor,

I know the du command but I can't find anything out about the -h part... what does the -h part denote?

Thanks again.

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Old 11-12-2003, 11:31 AM
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From the good book:

# man du

-h, --human-readable

It prints sizes in an easily readable format (e.g., 1K, 234M, 2G)

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