11-04-2003, 05:01 PM
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Dual Xeon Motherboards
Anyone have experience with this dual xeon motherboard?
Asus PC-DL Deluxe (SATA, GigE, RAID)
http://www.asus.com/products/server/...l/overview.htm
It is very well priced (~$260) and supports non ECC aswell, which saves some more money on ram.
I want to put a dual xeon 2.6/2.8, 2x 120GB SATA and a videocard (cheap one, geforce 2..) whole in a 2u case 
Any tips are welcome 
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11-05-2003, 05:09 AM
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Dont take this as snobbish, for it has saved me lots of money in the end:
Lets server boards do server work. Let workstation boards do workstation work.
That very much holds true in the dual AMD and dual Opteron world, and I would feel comfortable applying the same logic to that as well.
I know its spendy, but I cant see why you wouldnt use ECC ram if you had a choice..is this NOT mission critical? Sounds like you are ready to invest a decent amount of coin in a server, after you spend $1200, $200 on better ram isnt much more
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11-05-2003, 08:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by innova
That very much holds true in the dual AMD and dual Opteron world, and I would feel comfortable applying the same logic to that as well.
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Did not understand what you mean here. Is AMD not for server work, or did I understand it incorrectly?
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Originally posted by innova
I know its spendy, but I cant see why you wouldnt use ECC ram if you had a choice..is this NOT mission critical? Sounds like you are ready to invest a decent amount of coin in a server, after you spend $1200, $200 on better ram isnt much more
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I don't see any difference between ECC and non-ECC. In fact, I feel that ECC is slower.
Is me only, or do others have the same experience with ECC?
Thanks for your help
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11-05-2003, 08:50 AM
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ECC is more reliable. It can correct some errors automatically.
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11-05-2003, 09:44 AM
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"Most Powerful Dual Intel Xeon Workstation MB"
i.e. it's not designed for use in a server
Server class boards use higher rated components, designed for 24/7 continous use, not occasional word processing and a couple of games.
ECC ram does some error correction, and is a *lot* more stable for important services.
Given the option, I'd always spend the extra and get a "server" not a workstation to do a servers job, and the more reliable the components, the less downtime and agro you'll get .
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11-05-2003, 10:11 AM
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Thank you all for the replies.
I think I'm going to get a supermicro dual xeon, since it is cheaper than buying an asus mobo+ ecc ram etc. and it is better aswell
Anyone who knows a good raid5 scsi card (for 3x36GB 15k) ?
Also, how do I put 1x 73GB SCSI with a 80GB IDE (for 'less' important data..) in the same box?
What are good U320 scsi cards if I take an IDE supermicro?
Thanks again!
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11-05-2003, 01:16 PM
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I highly recommend the Mylex acceleraid 352, with 128mb cache. It is not u320, but it does have dual u160 channels, so that will easily support the # of drives you want.
I would buy the IDE supermicro, then get this card, in a BIG (long) 2U case.. its a pretty long card
Othello, thanks, you explained the server board thing much more eloquently than I.
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11-06-2003, 12:50 PM
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I had an ASUS-PPDLW and the thing was a peice of crap to say the least. It wouldn't work under linux, with any kernel, with any setup. Both me and my host tried for weeks to get it working. We switched to a Supermicro board with the same chipset and features, and worked flawlessly on the first try.
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11-06-2003, 03:41 PM
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i like the adaptec asr-2100s ultra 160 cards although i tend to run raid 1 not 5
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11-14-2003, 11:37 AM
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We like the Intel SE7501BR2 and the Intel SRCL42U (motherboard + scsi board)
my 0.02
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11-14-2003, 04:11 PM
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The best server boards we have are from Tyan. As far as I know, many servers we have (using Tyan motherboards) never give us any problems whatsoever. And when they say server board, they really mean server board (capable to withstand heavy loads, stable, and is made for server use beyond desktop/workstation). It maybe cost a little more, but I would highly recommend their Dual Xeon Thunder i7501 class. They have RAID on board as well.
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11-15-2003, 02:04 PM
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Can you go into the bios and change settings remotely on the Tyan? I can do that with all of my intels, I can also watch it post, see if hardware fails et cetera even if the box isnt reachable to the OS.
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