Is anyone out there paying less than this at an XO datacenter?
Or can anyone recommend a different facility in SoCal with better prices. I dont want offers from small hosting companies reselling their space and bandwidth, i would prefer to go straight to the source.
For small colocation like you're doing, you're actually going to be much better off going with a reseller.
We're a reseller with MFN/Abovenet. Abovenet's minimum commitment is $500/month. Unless you're colocating at least 4-5 servers, it just isn't worth it to go with them directly. The high prices XO quoted you leads me to believe the same thing exists there... like Abovenet, they probably cater to people who are interested in buying at least 1 full rack and 10Mbit of bandwidth.
My recommendation: Look for a reputable reseller that has been around for a while. Call them and ask questions. Heck, call them in the middle of the night -- we've had customers do this before to test our response time. You're going to get a much better deal this way, and more support as well.
I was charged
$100/shelf (4u) $50/setup
$250M/ 1Mbps commitment.
Usually, they will 'give' you fairly large amount of space inside their carrier facilitys because then your forced to also buy traffic from them. The 1/2 cabinet and up is good pricing for a carrier facility, but he's hitting you pretty good on your lower commitment values. Its typical to see over $200 per Mbps from a top carrier, but 300+ is a bit much for XO. You won't get much under that unless you buy from a reseller, but then expect to pay more for quality space and power.
I'm not usually so open with pricing, but XO pissed me off pretty bad. I had really bad service and support with them.
I don't know Dilhole, and his name certainly doesn't inspire confedence
But, it is true you will get a better deal and service from a _good_ reseller. The problem is, there are more bad than good
Make an informed decision, ask alot of questions, and if its too cheap, then it probably is too cheap.
Otherwise, take a more agressive stance with XO, but be prepaired for them to be fairly firm. Contract neg. can be tough to do well, and 1Mbps is not alot of leverage in the deal A reseller is more likely to give you a better price on small traffic.
Sounds about right. Places like Internap or Level3 wont even bother unless you commit to half a rack and 5Mbps in SoCal. It's been a royal pain the ass to find colocation in the southland with physical access at a decent price. So far I've found nothing...
afaik, insiderhosting has mzima bw, which is an *excellent* provider (very reliable and performant tier 2, ala internap and peer1). worth giving them a shout if you dont mind the trip down the freeway, id say.
As rusko said, you can find a better price than this, Mzima doesn't do colo anymore, but if you are looking for a full rack, you can get a full rack in the One Wilshire building in downtown for $600, and can get probably $130/mbit with low commit from Mzima in that building.
I've done very well with single home Verio. Reliablity has been superb, and support has always been on the ball with me. Also, the network is pretty solid, very few area are > 60ms for the gamers. I have west coast based companys hosting with us that ping well under 100, and were on the other side of the country. Not any network is 100% to everyone, but I'm very happy with Verio in general.
I would rather be in a carrier nuetral facility than a carrier facilty even if your only single homed. If you do have problems, the building is full of people willing to work with you.
We won't be out west for atleast another year, but I'm sure you can find a decent reseller. Try calling carrier nuetral facilitys and ask for resellers in the building you want to be in. Let them know what your looking for, and you should find something reasonable.
One problem with the carrier neutral facility is support. Unless you're on site or close to the facility, you will have a little problem with this. With the carrier, you can call them up and they usually would provide some kind of support for free (for XO, the support you get is totally based on what you paid them per month). I just feel better that there is somebody on site to do some simple stuff when it's needed. My experience with carrier neutral facility is lots of money paid for remote hands. For most facility, they start at 75, but most are in the 100 range.
Also, most carrier facility are considered carrier neutral as well, with XO and Level3, they would allow cross connects with other providers. It is more expensive by doing that though.