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Old 10-16-2003, 04:45 AM
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School kids undressing recorded on security cameras


This is too weird ...


http://www.realnews247.com/parents_s...en_cameras.htm

Parents Sue School Over Hidden Cameras

NASHVILLE, Tenn. - A Tennessee middle school allowed security cameras to film children undressing in locker rooms and then stored the images on a computer accessible through the Internet, according to a lawsuit filed by a group of angry parents.


Another report...

http://www.tennessean.com/local/arch...35666846.shtml



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Old 10-16-2003, 05:03 AM
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Old 10-16-2003, 05:30 AM
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Wow. At what point did these people not realise that's a very stupid thing to do? Why would you even think of putting cameras in a room where young kids are getting changed.

I hope someone gets nailed for that.

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Old 10-16-2003, 05:36 AM
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the worst bit.. the assistant principla who had the images on his HD, only got transferred

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Old 10-16-2003, 05:46 AM
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I think I can somewhat understand the motivation behind installing security cameras, though it could easily be construed as not right by many. The thing with education is, you're pretty much damned if you do, and damned if you don't. What I mean is that if anything happened in those locker rooms, (such as a student getting attacked by another student, etc.), the school system would have been sued for lack of security and monitoring.

Working with children presents some interesting challenges, especially for male teachers. Back in the day, the teachers could tap students with rulers, but don't even think of trying that today. Also, don't hug kids, touch them in any way, etc. Show them you care in a nurturing way, but not too much as then you're a child molester. There was a good article abot male teachers in the lastest NEA mag.

Like I said, while it could easily be construed that this type of monitoing is a bad thing, it's equally true that a lack of monitoring would have generated a lawsuit. The computer wasn't secured, and that was a major blunder. Aside forn that, you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
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the worst bit.. the assistant principla who had the images on his HD, only got transferred
Again, this is because it is extremely difficult to get rid of anyone in education. All this person wold have to do is claim the principal knew and file a wrongful termination suit. You can't even fire janitors who sleep on the job. It's ridiculous in many ways.

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Old 10-16-2003, 06:01 AM
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This was a fair while ago, July 1...

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Chalos said he doesn't know if the cameras are still operating.
They find this is happening and they still haven't removed the cameras

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Old 10-16-2003, 06:55 AM
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The thing with education is, you're pretty much damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
Agreed, but:

Video cameras trained on young children changing their clothes.

I can understand a camera outside the changing room to monitor who comes in and out, but that's just passing the point of providing security, to downright invasion of privacy.

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Old 10-16-2003, 08:06 AM
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I know a few stores put cameras in their restrooms (the multi-stall ones), but not sure if they can see much...

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Old 10-16-2003, 08:22 AM
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Again, this is because it is extremely difficult to get rid of anyone in education. All this person wold have to do is claim the principal knew and file a wrongful termination suit. You can't even fire janitors who sleep on the job. It's ridiculous in many ways.
It's the same here in MA, the teachers union has a deathgrip on the education system, no wonder it sucks so bad, they aren't there to educate, but to protect jobs at any cost.

Anyways, they should fire everyone involved. If they get any money for this from the school system itself, that $4.2 million or whatever will come from local taxpayers, directly or indirectly. They're suing their neighbors for the educators stupidity.

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Old 10-16-2003, 09:33 AM
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Old 10-16-2003, 10:32 AM
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UN-REAL.........WHAT NEXT??????

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Old 10-16-2003, 12:08 PM
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UN-REAL.........WHAT NEXT??????

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Daily cavity checks for all teachers in that school.

Let's see how they like it.

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Old 10-16-2003, 12:12 PM
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Yeah and the HDD was accessed 97+ times from the outside world over the internet from different states...or so foxnews last night reported with the Attorney for the parents. Now doesnt this contrue Child pornography and isnt that a federal crime... so how can the teachers union do a damn thing about that? crime is crime, no matter what it is no one should be able to stop the prosecution or investigation of any crime........let alone one involving children!

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Old 10-16-2003, 12:23 PM
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Yeah and the HDD was accessed 97+ times from the outside world over the internet from different states...or so foxnews last night reported with the Attorney for the parents. Now doesnt this contrue Child pornography and isnt that a federal crime... so how can the teachers union do a damn thing about that? crime is crime, no matter what it is no one should be able to stop the prosecution or investigation of any crime........let alone one involving children!
Somehow I doubt they were actually filming the toilet areas, they were probably filming the common areas looking for smoking or something, but I could be wrong, in that case, it might likely be considered child expolitation.

As for the union comment, that's completely out of context, which seems all to common here, no one said anything about the teacher's union having anything to do with stopping or preventing this crime.

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Old 10-16-2003, 12:27 PM
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outrageous the principal should be sacked he is ultimately responsible...

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