Anyone use Dathorn AND understand DNS???

jjmac78 · #1 10-09-2003, 10:46 AM

I'm new to Dathorn and WHM... For the past few years I've just run my own linux servers just to host pages for a few customers that I do web pages for. I always managed my own DNS in BIND manually... For bandwidth reasons I wanted to get a reseller account.

I am about to transfer some domains to my Dathorn account and I was looking for a place to add the A/MX records and didnt find any. I dont need to use a custom nameserver, the nameserver listed in my welcome email will work just fine.

In this case, is an A/MX record automatically created (for domain.com and www.domain.com and mail.domain.com) when I add a new account? is an A record automatically created when a customer creates a subdomain?

Just curious because when i got to that step of my transfer, I was kind of at a loss because I couldnt find where to do it at... I just want to make sure of this before I point the domain to the nameservers...

Thanks everyone!

Jim_UK · #2 10-09-2003, 10:49 AM

cPanel takes care of the dns zone when adding an account and subdomain (adds the www., mail., etc).

If you need to edit the zone yourself at any point it will depend on whether Dathorn have this feature enabled in WHM for their resellers. Some hosts do and some don't.

Esr Tek · #3 10-09-2003, 10:50 AM

In WHM there should be a few options "add/edit/delete DNS Zones", however these features can be disabled by sys admin.

If you do not have those then you will need to ask Dathorn to add the functionality to the account.

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Originally posted by jjmac78
In this case, is an A/MX record automatically created (for domain.com and www.domain.com and mail.domain.com) when I add a new account? is an A record automatically created when a customer creates a subdomain?

Yes cPanel will add the proper records into the DNS Zone

Aussie Bob · #4 10-09-2003, 10:52 AM

You're thinking too far ahead of yourself and complicating a simple procedure.

If you have personalised nameservers [ns1.yourdomain.com etc]

(1). Register your personalised nameservers at your domain register.

(2). Use those newly registered nameservers for your domain's nameservers.

If you're using their nameservers -

(1). Change the dns info for your domains that you setup in your WHM, at your domain register.

No need for you to be messing around with A/MX records.

Hostmax-br · #5 10-09-2003, 10:56 AM

Actually the edit function in the WHM is disable at dathorn (at least in my account) but if you ask Andrew he can enable it to you.
Anyway when you create a domain is auto creates the mail.domain etc...

jjmac78 · #6 10-09-2003, 11:02 AM

Thanks everyone that answers my question...

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You're thinking too far ahead of yourself and complicating a simple procedure.

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No need for you to be messing around with A/MX records.

Actually I'm having to think BEHIND myself now because this is the procedure I have done for 3 years when tranferring a domain. Set up the dirs, edit the httpd.conf file for apache, restart the apachetl server, edit the dns to add the domain.com, www.domain.com, mail.domain.com and mx > mail.domain.com, then add the email address etc THEN change the dns at the registrar... So it was a fairly complicated procedure (at least complicated to figure out and get everything straight pulling this info from about a million oline articles,books,etcetcetc, not complicated to actually do).. Then only thing I'm new to is WHM -- which makes this procedure basically obsolete according to these answers.

I would never 'mess around' with A/MX records... People can get hurt that way. But if I would have known reseller accounts with WHM keep up the DNS automatically, I wouldnt have spend COUNTLESS hours (and I mean countless) reading in dim-lit smoke filled rooms on who what where when and why DNS is and how to use it... Oh well, I'll just add that to the 'information I can scrap' pile and fill it up with something like 'how to cook danish chocolate filled popovers'.

Thanks everyone

Aussie Bob · #7 10-09-2003, 11:25 AM

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Originally posted by jjmac78
. . . Then only thing I'm new to is WHM -- which makes this procedure basically obsolete according to these answers.

Yep, it's all automated.

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. . . Oh well, I'll just add that to the 'information I can scrap' pile and fill it up with something like 'how to cook danish chocolate filled popovers'.

Hmmmmm, danish chocalate filled popovers.

efarmer · #8 10-10-2003, 04:19 AM

I thought own server is better tha reseller account.

jjmac78 · #9 10-10-2003, 07:22 AM

It is if you have time to keep up the security updates, upgrades, etc, and of course know how to do it. I've run my own server for 3 years but my main business isnt hosting. Its web page design and I just host the people i design for. Its so nice not to have to worry about the actual server maintenance.

Aussie Bob · #10 10-10-2003, 09:58 AM

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Originally posted by jjmac78
It is if you have time to keep up the security updates, upgrades, etc, and of course know how to do it. I've run my own server for 3 years but my main business isnt hosting. Its web page design and I just host the people i design for. Its so nice not to have to worry about the actual server maintenance.

That is so true. We have new clients who've come from their own dedicated server, and want to open several accounts on different servers, because they don't want the hassle and responsibility of server management. They like to have the freedom to go away for the weekend and not have to be thinking about their server.