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10-03-2003, 11:58 AM #1Newbie
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AMD or PentiumIV?
Which one of these are better processors? A sales person explained the differenc to me awhile ago, but I can't seem to remember what he said about the amd I know the pentium is a cadillac of all processors, but if I'm not mistaken, I think he said that AMD's weren't too far behind the pentiums...am I getting this right Can somebody please explain the difference and the benefits of the 2...I would really appreciate it!
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10-03-2003, 12:03 PM #2Web Hosting Master
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AMD XP's were ahead of P4's up until the Xp 2400+ / P4 2.4 GHZ. At that point the processors are just about equal. After that model the P4's overtook the AMD's performance wise, resulting in the AMD's beeing slightly behind the P4's advertised as the same speed (e.a. P4 2.6 GHZ and XP2600+).
However, if you take price into consideration, the AMD's are half the price of the P4's and the difference in performance is only very small, I would still go for AMD if possible.
One thing P4's do have going for them in a hosting environment is the fact they have built in overheating protection, meaning they'll just start running slower if they get too hot. AMD does not have this feature. Luckily many AMD motherboard manufacturers have now started adding this feature into the motherboards, so this disadvantage is erradicated.
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10-03-2003, 12:25 PM #3Newbie
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That helped alot...thanks Tazzman
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10-03-2003, 04:14 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Tazzman
AMD does not have this feature.Can you be scared half to death twice?
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10-03-2003, 04:17 PM #5Web Hosting Master
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The age 'ol question... Intel or AMD.
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10-03-2003, 04:19 PM #6Retired Moderator
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The latest 2.2Ghz Athlon will still outperform a P4 3Ghz (with or without hyperthreading)... or so a diagram provided by AMD in a magazine I have here shows...
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10-03-2003, 05:18 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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And AMD would never be biased towards AMD chips!
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10-03-2003, 05:21 PM #8Resident Liverpool FC Fan
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Originally posted by Vortex-Steve
The latest 2.2Ghz Athlon will still outperform a P4 3Ghz (with or without hyperthreading)... or so a diagram provided by AMD in a magazine I have here shows...
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10-03-2003, 05:39 PM #9Retired Moderator
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As the thread starter said about a salesman explaining the difference between processors I thought he would be talking about desktop based machines...
And from the test results I have here an Athlon XP 3200 (2.2Ghz) gives better performance than a P4 3.0Ghz.Steve
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10-03-2003, 05:44 PM #10WHT Addict
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For a server i personally would go for the Pentium 4 over an Athlon XP. They are both good in their own rights but the P4's especially the models with hyperthreading technology win in out right processor power.
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10-03-2003, 05:58 PM #11Resident Liverpool FC Fan
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Originally posted by Vortex-Steve
And from the test results I have here an Athlon XP 3200 (2.2Ghz) gives better performance than a P4 3.0Ghz.█ Xcellweb.net - Quality Web Solutions That Work!
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10-03-2003, 06:22 PM #12Web Hosting Evangelist
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It all comes down to preference and what you're willing to pay. I swore by Intel when I was in my "younger" years, but will now only buy amd personally. I think the bang for the buck is much larger with AMD.
I do think Pentiums are great in servers though.
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10-03-2003, 06:37 PM #13is a threadkiller
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Hmm... I've been thinking about this same issue for my next computer build.
Thanks for the post Tazz, I've decided I'm going to use AMD since the price is lower for AMD compared to an "equal" P4.Don't like what I say? Ignore me.
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10-03-2003, 06:55 PM #14Web Hosting Master
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FYI, Intel is doing a huge price drop (up to 30% and more) on October 26 (as reported by The Register.) Expect AMD to follow suit.
If you can wait 3 weeks to buy, you should.
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On [October 26], the 3.2GHz P4, which operates with a 200MHz frontside bus quad-pumped for an effective bus speed of 800MHz, will fall to $417, a reduction of 34.5 per cent. Other 800MHz FSB P4 prices will fall too, with the price of the 3GHz chip being reduced from $417 to $278 (a fall of 33.4 per cent), the 2.8GHz version falling from $278 to $218 (down 21.6 per cent) and the 2.6GHz part coming down to $178 from $218 (down 18.3 per cent). The 2.4GHz chip will stay where it is, at $178.
The 533MHz FSB 3.06GHz P4 will fall from $401 to $262, a dip of 34.7 per cent. The 2.8GHz version will fall to $193 from $262 (down 26.3 per cent) and the 2.66GHz release will be priced at $163, down 15.5 per cent from $193. The 2.53GHz P4 will also fall from $193 to $163. Prices are per chip based on orders of 1000 units.Erica Douglass, Founder, Simpli Hosting, Inc.
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10-03-2003, 06:58 PM #15Web Hosting Master
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Nice info Erica. Looks like I'll be replacing my XP1800+ soon afterall
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Oh, and don't forget the new 64 bit AMD's... wouldn't mind one of those
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10-03-2003, 08:12 PM #17Disabled
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Originally posted by Simpli-Erica
FYI, Intel is doing a huge price drop (up to 30% and more) on October 26 (as reported by The Register.) Expect AMD to follow suit.
If you can wait 3 weeks to buy, you should.
From the article:
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10-03-2003, 11:37 PM #18Web Hosting Evangelist
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Well, lets take a look here. From what I understand, SQ4 is not looking for CPU to use on a server, but rather a home computer. In this case, I would choose AMD over Intel anytime. The fact that it's cheaper, and it's performance. (I have an AMD XP 1700+ and it's excellent with any application, games, graphic programs, ect. that I have )
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10-04-2003, 01:43 AM #19Web Hosting Master
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The Intel chipsets are much more stable, it's not just a CPU issue.
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10-04-2003, 01:45 AM #20Disabled
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Opteron all the way.
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10-04-2003, 02:02 AM #21Web Hosting Master
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Go AMD! Much better value.
As for stability, my Dad's Duron rig, is just as stable as my P4. And, all the parts in his machine are bottom barrel stuff.
Mine is all quality... Intel Mobo, AVC CPU cooler, Micron and Samsung RAM, etc.
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Originally posted by Tazzman
Nice info Erica. Looks like I'll be replacing my XP1800+ soon afterall
I'm waiting for the P4/3.0/800MHz plus a motherboard and RAM to come down in price. Currently, it's about $740 for the processor, a nice motherboard, and 512MB Corsair DDR400 RAM, so I'm waiting to upgrade. In fact, I've been waiting since August. Someday, when it gets to be around $500, I'll upgrade.Erica Douglass, Founder, Simpli Hosting, Inc.
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Originally posted by Zerano
Opteron all the way.
Although it's meant for use as a server processor, i'm using it in a desktop role, just for fun.YourCheapHost.com - Low cost multi domain hosting solutions. [Legal adult content friendly]
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Originally posted by net-trend
Just got myself an Opteron 240 a few days ago. And all I can say is...IT'S SWEEEET!
Although it's meant for use as a server processor, i'm using it in a desktop role, just for fun.
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10-04-2003, 06:50 PM #25Junior Guru Wannabe
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i say AMD, only cause i've had a very good experince with performance but then again i havent used the newer ones, i've got the 1.2mhz athlon thunderbird runs extremly hot which is not good so i bolted on a heavy duty fan and its been running fine, i needed more space so i bought a IBM deskstar 120GXP.
i think amd are gonna up in favor cause they are a lot cheaper for one!!Ash.