Those are kinda my thoughts

But that is nothing even close to a guarantee.
I did ask for references and they did not provide any. BUT the sales rep gave me links to sites they host, and a generic client list. I guess I could simply go to those web sites and ask questions without any real permission.
(It doesn't take brain surgery to figure out the contact information)
Many companies I have talked to refuse to give references. Mostly the larger ones. I guess they think I might try to steal the clients *shrug*
I actually had one company that refused to give any references and provided no money back guarantee *and* I would have had to sign a 3 month contract. So if anything went wrong it would not be pretty for anyone. That was too big a leap of faith for me ... ;(
thanks
David