hosted by liquidweb


Go Back   Web Hosting Talk : Web Hosting Main Forums : Web Design and Content : Copyright infringement?
Reply

Forum Jump

Copyright infringement?

Reply Post New Thread In Web Design and Content Subscription
 
Send news tip View All Posts Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-25-2003, 02:35 PM
LightningWeb LightningWeb is offline
Junior Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 189

Copyright infringement?


I know it's illegal to go to Dell's website and clip an image of a server to use on your site, But suppose I own a Dell server and take a picture of it myself and use it in the background of a logo i'm creating. Is that copyright infringement? I have a really sweet idea for a client's logo and the image already taken, but I wouldn't want my client to get a notice of infringement after I bill him...I don't think they'd like that too much. It's not a blatant "hey this is a dell server" type image...as far as anyone would know, it's just a computer.

What do you think?

__________________
John DeLutri
President - Lightning Technologies, Inc.

Web hosting is simple math: Fast+Reliable+Service=Happy Customer

Reply With Quote


Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 09-25-2003, 03:33 PM
Rich2k Rich2k is offline
Web Hosting Master
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 2,994
Ask Dell.. they will soon tell you.

http://www.dell.com/us/en/gen/misc/p...007_policy.htm

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-25-2003, 04:22 PM
Mekhu Mekhu is offline
Evenly Divided
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,028
I was wondering this myself, because I want to get a nice digital camera and take some shots to upload to istockphoto.com, but I was worried about the same thing.

Example, can I take a picture of my car and upload it for others to download?

Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #4  
Old 09-25-2003, 07:51 PM
etogre etogre is offline
Web Hosting Master
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: California, USA
Posts: 581
Mekhu, that's legal.

To the thread starter, just take a pic of one of your servers . Saves you some trouble.

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-25-2003, 07:55 PM
LightningWeb LightningWeb is offline
Junior Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 189
That's my point...my servers are Dell servers. If I take a pic of one of my servers was the original question.....I went to dells website and all the talk about is stuff from their site...not pictures I take of dell equipment I already own.

__________________
John DeLutri
President - Lightning Technologies, Inc.

Web hosting is simple math: Fast+Reliable+Service=Happy Customer

Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-25-2003, 08:36 PM
danman danman is offline
Web Hosting Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Posts: 462
No, its 100% legal.

You own the equipment, so if you take a picture of it, YOU own that intellectual property.

Now if you went into Dell's datacentre and took pictures, that might be a different story.

__________________
OMG!! WEBHOST RESOURCES!
Webhost Resources
Read about your company in the news
Web Hosting Press Releases


Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-25-2003, 10:54 PM
kneadingu kneadingu is offline
Web Hosting Master
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,115
Agreed perfectly legal for you to photograph the server and use your own creation so long as it is not an apparent attempt to recreate the image of another.

__________________
• Protection against Ddos, DOS, Brute force, Proxy Attacks & robots. • MONEY BACK GUARANTEE! • No price increase EVER!
• Has your current/prospective host been around more than 10 years? We have!

sales@uncensored-hosting.com • Uncensored-Hosting • Follow @UncensoredHost

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-25-2003, 11:03 PM
LightningWeb LightningWeb is offline
Junior Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 189
Thanks guys, much appreciated.

__________________
John DeLutri
President - Lightning Technologies, Inc.

Web hosting is simple math: Fast+Reliable+Service=Happy Customer

Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-01-2003, 04:10 AM
hdezela hdezela is offline
WHT Addict
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Lima, Perϊ
Posts: 164
The copyright on a picture is applied to the image itself, not the objects inside. What's being protected is the photographer's choice of light, angle...etc, so any picturre *you* take is your own work, regardless of what's in it.

Dell's online policy applies to the pictures taken by their photographers...not what's in them.

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-01-2003, 04:33 PM
Kattilyn Kattilyn is offline
Junior Guru Wannabe
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 64
Tho when dealing with Dell in a legal way, one should also be careful. I know an employee who refers to their legal department as 'that place with the man-eating sharks'.

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 10-01-2003, 05:10 PM
Rich2k Rich2k is offline
Web Hosting Master
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: UK
Posts: 2,994
The problem with that is if you take a picture of a dell server and the dell logo appears in the picture where are you placed then as you have a registered trademark of another company in your picture?

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 10-01-2003, 06:39 PM
Kattilyn Kattilyn is offline
Junior Guru Wannabe
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 64
Dell spends $100,000's a year for product placement in movies and TV shows/etc, and millions more I bet on plain old advertising.

I'd wager as long as you aren't trying to infer that you ARE Dell, or you have a deal with Dell, or you and Dell are business partners, etc, they probably wouldn't mind the free publicity..

You should probably ask them, tho.

Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-01-2003, 06:59 PM
Charlottezweb Charlottezweb is offline
Web Hosting Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 527
Yep, you shouldn't have a problem at all if you take the photo yourself. Guess I learned something in college afterall

Jason

__________________
http://www.charlottezweb.com
HOSTING your livelihood

Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-02-2003, 08:50 AM
Bullschmidt Bullschmidt is offline
Junior Guru Wannabe
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 89
I'd suggest airbrushing out the Dell logos on the picture you take.

__________________
J. Paul Schmidt
www.Bullschmidt.com - Freelance Web and Database Developer
www.Bullschmidt.com/DevTip.asp - Classic ASP Design Tips


Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-02-2003, 06:12 PM
LightningWeb LightningWeb is offline
Junior Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: New York
Posts: 189
Quote:
Originally posted by Bullschmidt
I'd suggest airbrushing out the Dell logos on the picture you take.
That's a good idea, being as I don't care that it's a dell server. I just needed a server type machine to have in the image.

__________________
John DeLutri
President - Lightning Technologies, Inc.

Web hosting is simple math: Fast+Reliable+Service=Happy Customer

Reply With Quote
Reply

Related posts from TheWhir.com
Title Type Date Posted
British Officials Deny New Copyright Regulations will Decriminalize Online Piracy Web Hosting News 2014-07-24 15:30:08
LeaseWeb Settles Copyright Infringement Lawsuit with Adult Publisher Perfect 10 Web Hosting News 2014-06-13 10:41:09
Content Owners and ISPs Try to Kill Copyright Infringement with Kindness, But Will it Work? Web Hosting News 2014-05-29 11:58:00
File Sharing Service RapidShare Changes Traffic Model to Deter Piracy Web Hosting News 2012-11-09 12:16:35
Dutch Court Orders Web Host to Pay Damages for Facilitating Copyright Infringement Web Hosting News 2012-10-25 16:30:08


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes
Postbit Selector

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump
Login:
Log in with your username and password
Username:
Password:



Forgot Password?
Advertisement:
Web Hosting News:



 

X

Welcome to WebHostingTalk.com

Create your username to jump into the discussion!

WebHostingTalk.com is the largest, most influentual web hosting community on the Internet. Join us by filling in the form below.


(4 digit year)

Already a member?