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09-14-2003, 02:59 AM #76Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by Steve-VST
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09-14-2003, 03:02 AM #77Web Hosting Master
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another thought crossed my mind, and I apologize if it has been mentioned here in this thread already.....but why not have prohacker or someone else REMOVE post counts? would rid this good forum of all the "self pats on the backs" and the seniority complexed people I see here.
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09-14-2003, 03:23 AM #78Web Hosting Master
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We tried the post count thing before = in the end it doesn't really matter.
I think since we put them back the quality of posts has gotten better a bit. (but that's a whole other post count thread )
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09-14-2003, 03:28 AM #79Web Hosting Master
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ah that does make sense I suppose, gives those who think that the personal post count matter, something to strive towards
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09-14-2003, 08:52 AM #80WHT Addict
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Originally posted by Aussie Bob
......... IMO, something drastic needs to be done to get rid of the kiddy hosts with their $2/yr plans. I say that you should charge hosts a fee to post down there. It would hopefully filter out the kiddies and open up another stream of revenue for you.
I don't even bother considering posting in the ad forums now, I don't have mommy and daddy paying my bills so my prices are higher
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09-14-2003, 09:26 AM #81Web Hosting Guru
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I vote Dallas.. cause my wife will surely let me go if I dont have to stay over night anywhere. :-)
Originally posted by relledge
That seems to be the question of the day. Maybe we need to plan a WHT party somewhere!
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09-14-2003, 09:42 AM #82Web Hosting Guru
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Amen to that!
Originally posted by Aussie Bob
You might want to look very hard at the Advertising Forums, and ask whether you want to continue providing free promotion to every man and his dog. IMO, something drastic needs to be done to get rid of the kiddy hosts with their $2/yr plans. I say that you should charge hosts a fee to post down there. It would hopefully filter out the kiddies and open up another stream of revenue for you.
What more is there to say? Amen Aussie Bob.. keep on preaching.
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09-14-2003, 10:29 AM #83Web Hosting Guru
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Great - WHT is now owned by the former owners of Communitech whose business practices in the past would shame even the worst webhosts discussed on these forums.
It may have been in the past but the way Communitech treated it's customers was unforgiveable.
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09-14-2003, 10:33 AM #84Web Hosting Master
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I say that you should charge hosts a fee to post down thereMatt Wallis
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09-14-2003, 10:40 AM #85Junior Guru
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Originally posted by DaveC#
Great - WHT is now owned by the former owners of Communitech whose business practices in the past would shame even the worst webhosts discussed on these forums.
It may have been in the past but the way Communitech treated it's customers was unforgiveable.
You are correct in that some of those involved with iNET were involved/had ownership in CommuniTech.Net. Personally, I am proud to have been co-founder of CommuniTech.Net.
If it is any comfort, the moderators are all continuing and iNET will play a fairly limited role. No changes are planned, as this has been echoed throughout this thread.
If you would like to PM me regarding your issues regarding CommuniTech.Net, I would curious to hear your issues and provide any feedback I can. I realize it is in the past, but I would welcome the opportunity to address your grievance.
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09-14-2003, 12:07 PM #86Web Hosting Guru
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If you would like to PM me regarding your issues regarding CommuniTech.Net, I would curious to hear your issues and provide any feedback I can. I realize it is in the past, but I would welcome the opportunity to address your grievance.
The bottom line is you used to massively oversell your virtual host accounts, then close down accounts generating too much traffic and then try to sell the same customers your overpriced dedicated server offerings. If a customer refused to buy dedicated then their account was suspended permently (allow payment still taken).
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09-14-2003, 12:27 PM #87Junior Guru
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Hi Dave:
Obviously CT was not a good fit for your hosting needs, and I hope you have since found a good fit, as I wish you well as a fellow WHT member.
I would like to hear any suggestions you have for improving WHT.-------------------------------------------------
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09-14-2003, 06:25 PM #88Web Hosting Master
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I know this is going to cause a stir but heck it wouldn't be WHT without a stir ...I am just starting in the hosting biz (on my own ) I have invested alot of money in that , by charging people to place Ad's you wont weed out the kiddie hosts they have money to ..if you set the price too high in the hopes of weeding out kiddie hosts all your going to do is make it so start up hosts cant afford to place Ads here ...its a bit of a double edged sword , as Im thinking about it I can see it becoming "Dad Will you place an ad for me" I totally agree something needs to be done ..what still remains to be seen
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09-14-2003, 07:39 PM #89Web Hosting Master
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Re: Amen to that!
Originally posted by RasnCain
What more is there to say? Amen Aussie Bob.. keep on preaching.
Hey I wonder what it would be like if we all decided to join forces and lobby the new owners regarding this topic?http://www.voilaweb.com - the Social Internet Toolbox.
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09-14-2003, 07:41 PM #90Web Hosting Master
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My problem is this:
What if a "$2" host can actually do it? Who are we to say "You're too cheap - conduct your business somewhere else?"
Unlike unlimited bandwidth (which we can prove is non-existant), how can you know for sure a host can't provide what it offers?
Or maybe the industry iteself needs to work out a way to "license" hosts?
Or maybe the problem is hosts that offer the extremely cheap reseller accounts?
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09-14-2003, 09:03 PM #91Newbie
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Originally posted by DaveC#
Gabriel - I talked to you many times on the phone after you had disabled my accounts on your servers.
The bottom line is you used to massively oversell your virtual host accounts, then close down accounts generating too much traffic and then try to sell the same customers your overpriced dedicated server offerings. If a customer refused to buy dedicated then their account was suspended permently (allow payment still taken).
Let's focus on the present.
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09-14-2003, 11:49 PM #92Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by akash
. . . Or maybe the industry iteself needs to work out a way to "license" hosts? . . .
It's probably best discussed in another thread, but WHT could implement some kind of application process, whereby a host that wants to advertise in the Ad_forums, needs to meet certian criteria. They could also place a fee on this application.
Yes, I know this is a complex issue, and not without the negatives, but IMO, it's worth looking into. I'm sure the new WHT owners have some ideas of their own for that part of the forum.• WLVPN.com • NetProtect owned White Label VPN provider •
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09-15-2003, 12:01 AM #93Web Hosting Master
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What about ... in order to get posting rights in the advertising forums, you need to have a registered business + tax ID (for us hosts, and whatever it is in the other countries? It could work... I guess ?
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09-15-2003, 06:12 AM #94Junior Guru Wannabe
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@inogenius
That is a very good idea, many fly by night hosts arent bothered about paying to register a company or having to pay the tax man at the end of the year (since they wont be around)
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09-15-2003, 06:16 AM #95Web Hosting Master
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But how would you determine the difference between a hoster and a hostee in the adverts forum?
How would you allow "anyone" to post a request but only "approved hosts" to reply, sounds like a bit of a mission to me.Matt Wallis
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09-15-2003, 06:23 AM #96Dennis Johnson
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Originally posted by Aussie Bob
Or maybe some kind of a "WHT Approved" status, rather than an industry wide "license"?
It's probably best discussed in another thread, but WHT could implement some kind of application process, whereby a host that wants to advertise in the Ad_forums, needs to meet certian criteria. They could also place a fee on this application.
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Well, except like you said; for a fee . . . .
For a fee, you can be an "Approved Host"
Seems a little too much to me. But, hey; maybe we could get that raise.
And then there's the "setting criteria" thing. I'm not about to suggest that you 'need' to charge x amount of monies to succeed in this industry.There is no best host. There is only the host that's best for you.
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09-15-2003, 06:39 AM #97Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
. . . For a fee, you can be an "Approved Host"
Yeah, an application fee. Another stream of revenue for the new owners of WHT.
Seems a little too much to me. But, hey; maybe we could get that raise.
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09-15-2003, 06:52 AM #98Dennis Johnson
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Sorry. I don't really see it as the answer.
There is no best host. There is only the host that's best for you.
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09-15-2003, 11:48 AM #99Newbie
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Originally posted by DaveC#
Great - WHT is now owned by the former owners of Communitech whose business practices in the past would shame even the worst webhosts discussed on these forums.
It may have been in the past but the way Communitech treated it's customers was unforgiveable.
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09-16-2003, 12:18 AM #100Web Hosting Master
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Originally posted by MikeBarolo
Welp here is someone talking sense. I expect more of the same business practices from Gabz and his crew that permeated Communitech.
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