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09-09-2019, 01:46 PM #1
cPanel install finished in 1 minutes and 54 seconds!
Dam that is fast
[2019-09-09 18:42:17 +0100] [4592] ( INFO): cPanel install finished in 1 minutes and 54 seconds!
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09-09-2019, 01:49 PM #2Aspiring Evangelist
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installing prebuilt rpms vs compiling from source
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09-09-2019, 04:31 PM #3Web Hosting Master
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Some people say that compiled from source software is faster than prebuild binaries as compiler can produce native code optimized for that particular CPU and environment.
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09-09-2019, 05:16 PM #4Web Hosting Master
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I would really doubt that in modern systems, there's going to be much of a performance gain from compiling your own and installing pre-packaged binaries. If there's any gain, it'd be very minimal - and even then I would question whether all of the libraries and extensions were compiled into a compiled system vs. a pre-packaged system for a true 1:1 comparison.
Compiling definitely has it's advantages if you want to apply your own patches or just need some other customization that the pre-packaged binaries don't include. Compiling also has the advantage of not necessarily requiring certain system packages. A pre-packaged binary for CentOS 7 may not (and likely won't) work for CentOS 6, but the same configure line will likely work on both systems.
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09-09-2019, 05:56 PM #5The Linux Specialist
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09-09-2019, 07:13 PM #6Web Hosting Master
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To be fair other panels seem quicker and less resource hungry compared to cPanel...
cPanel May win the quick install race, but in the long run another panel will use less resources and in turn make websites quicker to load without added extras.
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09-09-2019, 09:55 PM #7Web Hosting Master
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Now we can all spend our money on their new license structure even faster, yay!
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09-09-2019, 10:51 PM #8Web Hosting Master
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09-10-2019, 08:04 AM #10
I will just say that websites load faster than they did a few years ago when an install used to take between 30-90 minutes to install. RPM or compile, the sites load the same if not faster to me. So the quicker install time is good. Obviously, it benefits the much larger providers like EIG compared to smaller providers who do not do many installs.
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09-10-2019, 09:33 AM #11Web Hosting Master
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09-10-2019, 10:23 AM #12
Can't really say "unlikely" unless doing a 1:1 test as someone mentioned above. Some say sites load faster on DirectAdmin or other panels than they do on cPanel but never provide stats for it so what's the point of that? I also agree that it isn't as much about the control panel but more to do with the hardware/network and software used like Nginx/LiteSpeed and the PHP/LVE limits that dictate how fast the websites will load, not the control panel.
But do I prefer a quick install of just under 2 minutes over spending an hour setting up a control panel. Might as well be doing everything from command line otherwise or using something without a GUI like CentminMod. Just saying.
Look how lengthy the guide is for DirectAdmin https://servermanager.guide/162/how-...l-on-centos-7/
I hope they make the process a lot easier for hosting providers who need to set up a lot of servers. Sure that lengthy process is ok for the odd one or two servers for personal use but it takes too long when setting up a lot of servers.HostXNow - Shared Web Hosting | Semi Dedicated Hosting | Enterprise Reseller Hosting | VPS Hosting
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09-10-2019, 10:51 AM #13Web Hosting Master
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This probably has more to do with all the bloat that cPanel installs.
cPanel views itself as an all-encompassing server management tool. You don't have to know anything about Linux, the command-line, or hosting in general. You just have to have money to buy a server (and the increasing cPanel license cost), install cPanel ... ... PROFIT!
There's a lot of useless junk that runs on a cPanel server. But it's part of what happens when you placate to any and everyone. One person wants this "feature" or "component", so cPanel does that. Then another person wants something else, so they do that. This just builds more and more bloat.
Other control panels may take a more simplistic approach. Sure they may not do as much out of the box as cPanel... but if you have experience with Linux, the command-line, and web hosting in general... most server administrators can figure out a way to do the handful of tasks they need the system to do. And by sticking to those handful of tasks instead of the 300,000 that cPanel does... it becomes a more efficient system.
Now... having said all of that... cPanel's move to go to pre-packaged binaries and RPMs was genius. In my opinion, that was the best move they could have made. I'm a bit saddened by the view point that other control panels seem to be so caught up in "not being cPanel" that they don't stop to consider some of the good things that cPanel did. Just because cPanel did something... doesn't mean it was a bad decision.
But also having said all of that... take the Exim issue from last week. I think cPanel would have been better served to have just distributed their exim RPM, instead of forcing you to do a cPanel upgrade just to get the exim update. cPanel... instead of being modular, has just put everything into "cPanel". A separate system that deals with system binaries would probably be best... but all of their stuff is so inter-woven, I don't know if that will be possible.
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