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[Blank Space]

How can I put this in a way that it doesn't sound like a joke?

If a person buys a reseller account from a company that has reseller accounts. Can he or she themself offer reseller accounts?

No seriously, I have no clue....

[blue27]

It depends on who you buy your reseller account from. It would be difficult to offer them a reseller control panel.

[Amdac]

It's normally not a standard option, however there may be hosts that do offer it. I'm not sure why you'd want to though, reseller accounts generally eat up more resources with less profit. If you were interested in become a reseller, you'd see more profit just selling regular accounts.

[Blank Space]

No, I am not planning to go into the hosting industry.

I am wondering if they can seeing that I am looking into a host for regular hosting but I see reseller hosting also available. The host said they are not resellers. However I feel they are lying. I did a whois search and came up with another host name.

Maybe I'm wrong....

(I won't list the host for either making an embarrassment of myself or to make accusations)

[blue27]

If you have doubts about the host you are looking into it is best to stay away. Just make sure you have those doubts for the right reasons. If he is a reseller that is not necessarily a bad thing but if he's a reseller and he lied about it, it is a bad thing.

[VNPIXEL]

most of the time, reseller client can't offer reseller plan since he/she doesn't have that option available.

[Amdac]

Resller accounts should not be on the same servers as regular accounts. Resellers cram more accounts on one server than a regular hosting provider, using more resources and leading to slow load times and possible downtime.

[Mark_TVI]

Originally Posted by Amdac

Resellers cram more accounts on one server than a regular hosting provider,

Only if their host allows that. What my Reseller's quotas are dictate to them how many people they can put on a box. If you can have 200 accounts on a server, then you don't get any more then 200 accounts, regardless if it's 20 Resellers with 10 accounts each or 200 individual accounts. Although I'm quite sure not everyone would agree with this philosophy it is the only way it should be done IMO.

It is very difficult for a Reseller to offer Reseller accounts, in fact with WHM I don't think you can even do that although I'm not positive.

As was said earlier, if you are in doubt about a prospective host move on. It's not like there are not enough around to pick from...

[okihost]

I think what most people would do is just purchase additional reseller plans from their providers and charge whatever extra they think if fair to customer.. So you buy your reseller from ABC Host for $29/mo and sell it to your customer for $39/mo or whatever you think is far, but you still handle all the support directly with your ABC Host regarding the reseller plan. I would also suggest informing your host that you will be doing this but I can't see them having any issue with it and I would imagine if you get a good steady amount of sales per month you would be able to work out a small extra discount with them.

[aah-jim]

Hi,
We have built our own control panel to allow our resellers to create their own reseller accounts,
The users just have to create the normal cPanel accounts through WHM, and then login to a separate control panel to add reseller WHM access to any of their created accounts,
Thanks

[Amdac]

Originally posted by Watcher_TVI
Only if their host allows that. What my Reseller's quotas are dictate to them how many people they can put on a box. If you can have 200 accounts on a server, then you don't get any more then 200 accounts, regardless if it's 20 Resellers with 10 accounts each or 200 individual accounts. Although I'm quite sure not everyone would agree with this philosophy it is the only way it should be done IMO.

Good point. I was referring the hosts that limit resources based on space and bandwidth but not the number of domains hosted. You are right, limiting domains per reseller account would be an efficient method.

[nogi]

At some hosts resellers can by the hosts reseller plans at a discount and resell them at his own price. He can often do that under private label and the client will not know that he is a reseller himself. There is, however, nothing wrong in being a reseller. I believe that there are lots of decent and honest resellers out there providing excellent and caring customer support. Many of the hosts who have their own dedicated servers now, and are thus not resellers, once started out as resellers and then grew up, because they bild up a base of satisfied customers. Anyone has to start at some place. I doubt that anyone started out with 10 dedicated servers in this business

John

[Blank Space]

Originally posted by aah-jim
Hi,
We have built our own control panel to allow our resellers to create their own reseller accounts,
The users just have to create the normal cPanel accounts through WHM, and then login to a separate control panel to add reseller WHM access to any of their created accounts,
Thanks

It makes me fear if your client reselled your service with reselling it to another person and then reselled it to another and another....and another...

Anyways, I think I am having my doubts. I think I will go with another host to be safe(and because hey are offering me a better deal ). I appreciate all the opinions and other things to think about. I also am fine with resellers that can actually say it to me without being a liar.

Thanks everyone!

[aah-jim]

Hi,
Just as a note, we do not allow our resellers to create their own resellers to create their own resellers, etc.
It is only with that one extra tier, our resellers can create their own reseller accounts who can then create their own cPanel accounts and it stops there
We just find it useful for some users who would like to be able to offer reseller accounts without having the cost of a server with root access,
Thanks

[intellec]

Originally posted by Blank Space
How can I put this in a way that it doesn't sound like a joke?

If a person buys a reseller account from a company that has reseller accounts. Can he or she themself offer reseller accounts?

No seriously, I have no clue....

That is a BAD idea and it would be sorts of like a pyramid scheme. The client would be too far removed from the Data Center (Provider) and the WebHost.
1. So if the client has an issue that resides at the Data Center, they have to talk to the Reseller of Reseller, and not the Reseller, Host, or the Data Center.

2. The Reseller of Reseller would have to talk to the Reseller, and not the Host of the Data Center.

3. The Reseller would then have to contact the Host, but not the Data Center.

4. The Host would then have to contact the Data Center.

Data Center
--------WebHost
----------------Reseller
------------------------Reseller of Reseller
---------------------------------Client / End User

This hosting model would not be a great deal for the end-user!