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    ddos null-routing

    This is for a future product I'm speccing out relating to game servers. Any other providers offer similar things to this:

    DDos "ATTACKDETECTION" (light attacks only)
    http://www.reliablesite.net/ddos-protection/

    How much are the limits to using this? Is 10 times per day per dedicated server too much? (attack size 3 Gbps 100byte packet size)

    I've seen a lot of providers say they null-route for free, but I think that only is true if you get a small DDoS attack once a year or something. But I'm talking about more like constant attacks multiple times per day per dedicated server the kinds you frequently see on DayZ game servers etc.

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    Null routing is basically where all traffic to a specific IP or IP range is denied, so null routing would simply render access to your server via that IP (or a set of IPs) inaccessible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petrushka View Post
    This is for a future product I'm speccing out relating to game servers. Any other providers offer similar things to this:

    DDos "ATTACKDETECTION" (light attacks only)
    http://www.reliablesite.net/ddos-protection/

    How much are the limits to using this? Is 10 times per day per dedicated server too much? (attack size 3 Gbps 100byte packet size)

    I've seen a lot of providers say they null-route for free, but I think that only is true if you get a small DDoS attack once a year or something. But I'm talking about more like constant attacks multiple times per day per dedicated server the kinds you frequently see on DayZ game servers etc.
    Our system is fully automated, it doesn't matter if you get 1 attack per day or 10 attacks.

    You can contact us directly with any questions that you may have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Criot View Post
    Null routing is basically where all traffic to a specific IP or IP range is denied, so null routing would simply render access to your server via that IP (or a set of IPs) inaccessible.
    In this particular case, the application (it's a tunnel/proxy service) listens on multiple IP's and generally isn't affected by the loss of a small number of IP Addresses.

    Quote Originally Posted by RSNET-John View Post
    Our system is fully automated, it doesn't matter if you get 1 attack per day or 10 attacks.

    You can contact us directly with any questions that you may have.
    Good to know, thanks! I'll keep you in mind for the East Coast side of things.

    But I'm also looking for a similar anti-DDoS package like that in the West Coast area (ideally Los Angeles or San Fran) that would be good too. Anyone with Swiftway, Quadranet, or 100tb.com that ran into this kind of thing? I think they use manual null-routing but can't remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petrushka View Post
    Anyone with Swiftway, Quadranet, or 100tb.com that ran into this kind of thing? I think they use manual null-routing but can't remember.
    We are currently testing our new panel that includes the ability for clients to nullroute their Ipv4 as well as allowing customers to set up parameters when a nullroute should be applied automatically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petrushka View Post
    In this particular case, the application (it's a tunnel/proxy service) listens on multiple IP's and generally isn't affected by the loss of a small number of IP Addresses.



    Good to know, thanks! I'll keep you in mind for the East Coast side of things.

    But I'm also looking for a similar anti-DDoS package like that in the West Coast area (ideally Los Angeles or San Fran) that would be good too. Anyone with Swiftway, Quadranet, or 100tb.com that ran into this kind of thing? I think they use manual null-routing but can't remember.

    staminus.net has auto null routing and you can get attacked 1000 times a day, they dont care. However their ips WILL null route on around 50k pps/150mbs. So its light but at least there is some protection default, at least there used to be. Not sure now as they are trying to push that secureport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petrushka View Post
    But I'm also looking for a similar anti-DDoS package like that in the West Coast area (ideally Los Angeles or San Fran) that would be good too. Anyone with Swiftway, Quadranet, or 100tb.com that ran into this kind of thing? I think they use manual null-routing but can't remember.
    Some of the tools we've made are proprietary: automatically detecting attacks and patterns, and will mitigate the attack to prevent service interruptions to others on our network.

    Customers may also nullroute their own IPs via the secure client portal as well as lifting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petrushka View Post
    In this particular case, the application (it's a tunnel/proxy service) listens on multiple IP's and generally isn't affected by the loss of a small number of IP Addresses.



    Good to know, thanks! I'll keep you in mind for the East Coast side of things.

    But I'm also looking for a similar anti-DDoS package like that in the West Coast area (ideally Los Angeles or San Fran) that would be good too. Anyone with Swiftway, Quadranet, or 100tb.com that ran into this kind of thing? I think they use manual null-routing but can't remember.
    I am with Quadranet and their nullrouting is absolutely great! I can null IP's from their panel which is really helpful. Dustin is just a pleasure to deal with.. ordered another server last night.

    I am also with Reliablesite and they support this feature too I believe, I just seen it recently in the control panel when trying to pay a bill.. never used it with reliablesite though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrentaHost View Post
    I am also with Reliablesite and they support this feature too I believe, I just seen it recently in the control panel when trying to pay a bill.. never used it with reliablesite though.
    Yes, we do have the feature. You can either null route the IP yourself or have our system automatically null route it when you receive an attack exceeding your port speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TrentaHost View Post
    I am with Quadranet and their nullrouting is absolutely great! I can null IP's from their panel which is really helpful. Dustin is just a pleasure to deal with.. ordered another server last night.
    Appreciate the kind words! It has been an absolute please working with you and we're glad to have partnered with your company.
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