View Poll Results: Your preferred cPanel website builder?

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  • Trendy Tools

    10 15.15%
  • RVSiteBuilder

    33 50.00%
  • Breezi

    6 9.09%
  • Other - Please specify

    25 37.88%
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  1. #1

    Your preferred cPanel website builder?

    Which cPanel website builder do web hosts prefer to offer?

    Which cPanel website builder do end users prefer to use?
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    Wordpress of course :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FernGullyGraphics View Post
    Wordpress of course :-)
    WordPress is good, but that's more a CMS/Blogging type software.

    I mean proper website builders which have thousands of templates included for free.
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    We offer RVSiteBuilder and our customers are happy with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HostXNow_Chris View Post
    WordPress is good, but that's more a CMS/Blogging type software.

    I mean proper website builders which have thousands of templates included for free.
    I could argue that Wordpress is more proper than any of the others you have listed. If you are talking site builders, you should defintley have wordpress included in that list, which also comes with a ton of free templates and allows more flexibility, custom solutions than anything else out there at the moment.
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    Having used Rv Sitebuilder for so long I find it very boring, clients hate the look of the websites. Breezi is way too expensive also its very very complicated for my end users to understand.
    I like wordpress personally but again its not easy to understand wordpress. I did not hear about trendytools but I just tried their demo and so far I like it. My vote is for trendytools considering the options above.
    I will dig into trendy tools further to make my decision concrete.

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    Im my opinion, rvsitebuilder appeared outdated and was pricey for many servers so we discontinued them after having them for several years. Trendy looks more refreshed and pricing is good as well.
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    We began using RVSitebuilder years ago and then switched to Trendy because their templates looked really good in comparison, but after a while of using Trendy, had nothing but issues and Trendy's support was not very helpful and/or non-existent, so we ended up going back to RVSitebuilder.

    While RVSitebuilder doesn't have as good of looking templates as Trendy, at least it works like it's supposed to and we get support for the product when necessary.
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    Site Pro is pretty nice as well. It's rather new, but has a lot of potential: http://site.pro/

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    We've been on the look out for a new web site builder, Rvsitebuilder just looks so outdated.

    I had a look at the Trendy demo and its quite impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by i7Grendel View Post
    Site Pro is pretty nice as well. It's rather new, but has a lot of potential: http://site.pro/
    Yet another remotely hosted builder? No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FernGullyGraphics View Post
    I could argue that Wordpress is more proper than any of the others you have listed. If you are talking site builders, you should defintley have wordpress included in that list, which also comes with a ton of free templates and allows more flexibility, custom solutions than anything else out there at the moment.
    Think you may be being a little biased as you offer web development/design services i.e you'd probably prefer your clients to use your services instead of allowing them to use free tools included with plans such as RVSiteBuilder, Trendy Tools etc which are far easier for users who are new to hosting & domains and don't know how to use WordPress. You can't edit html/css etc as easily in WordPress as you can with website builders such as Trendy Tools (point & click).

    If you were not offering such services I'm sure you'd offer proper website builder than just offering WordPress which is already included with Softaculous!
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    The ugly truth is that none of the existing products are actually any good. However, RV is what most customer prefer. But I have not seen a website that looks really good and has been built using one of those tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HostMantis View Post
    Yet another remotely hosted builder? No thanks.
    They have a self hosted version - you'd need to contact them about it.

    There's also BaseKit - neither of these two integrate with cPanel other than just a link inside cPanel.

    Kopage is another option, but there's a lack of templates. It does install via FTP to the users cPanel account, but it's not exactly something someone would be able to use with no knowledge of a hosting dashboard. If I'm not mistaken, the user needs to add an FTP account for it. Then, that begs the question of why not just use something like Wordpress.

    I don't think there's anything out there that operates like Weebly/Wix etc where a person signs up, builds their site & call it a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Host4Geeks-Kushal View Post
    The ugly truth is that none of the existing products are actually any good. However, RV is what most customer prefer. But I have not seen a website that looks really good and has been built using one of those tools.
    This ^^

    Even clients when building sites for the first time soon realize that they are of little use for what they want or to clumpy to work with.

    Wordpress is still king of the newbies. It's quick to get up and running with a look you want and the plugins you need. Bloated? Yes but still work better than RV, Breezi and the others, plus it gets the end user working productively in a very short space of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HostMantis View Post
    Yet another remotely hosted builder? No thanks.
    Yes, I'd prefer them to be able to maange site within cPanel which is what I like about RVSiteBuilder. I don't think Trendy Tools works in the same way?

    Quote Originally Posted by Host4Geeks-Kushal View Post
    The ugly truth is that none of the existing products are actually any good. However, RV is what most customer prefer. But I have not seen a website that looks really good and has been built using one of those tools.
    I dunno, the designs at http://www.trendytools.com/site-builder-samples.php are far better than what RVSiteBuilder and most of free WordPress themes. So much easier to changes stuff with Trendy Tools too. But yes, don't like designs in RVSiteBuilder at all.
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    Another vote for Wordpress.

    Easy to install templates and plugins, easy to edit and customise.
    You get a much better looking site using Wordpress templates than you tend to with these expensive site builders. Last time I used RVSiteBuilder the results were shocking.

    If I was a host, I'd sooner save the money I'd spend on site builders and invest it into someone to provide some nice step by step tutorials for my customers using Wordpress. You save in the long term, and the customer gains knowledge in the long run. Win win?

    Not forgetting Wordpress has a handy iOS/Android app too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HostXNow_Chris View Post
    Think you may be being a little biased as you offer web development/design services i.e you'd probably prefer your clients to use your services instead of allowing them to use free tools included with plans such as RVSiteBuilder, Trendy Tools etc which are far easier for users who are new to hosting & domains and don't know how to use WordPress. You can't edit html/css etc as easily in WordPress as you can with website builders such as Trendy Tools (point & click).

    If you were not offering such services I'm sure you'd offer proper website builder than just offering WordPress which is already included with Softaculous!
    That actually couldn't be farther from the truth. There are various scenarios where a customer can come to us for a customized website solution (however we do not recommend wordpress for the sake of getting more design customers). That is essentially apples to oranges as a customer can easily develop a website using wordpress as they would Rvsitebuilder (probably much easier actually).

    To be frank, the reason why we dont push the types of builders you listed is because they are for lack of a better word, useless. Customers are going to spend the same amount of time trying to customize, get a site up and running in Rvsitebuilder (just as an example since that is the builder we currently have included in our web hosting packages), as they would a wordpress site.

    So the big difference comes with A.) being able to move your website from one provider to the next if necessary and B.) Having something that is robust so should you ever decide to redesign your website/upgrade or do something with your website other than keeping it on a cookie cutter site builder, your time invested in what you already implemented will not be completely lost.

    Honestly, I dont even know why the question you posed is even a question anymore. Personally, as a developer I wouldnt feel like I was doing a customer any favors by recommending any of those site builders you mentioned (which are a slight step above Wixx) in a sense that you might be able to migrate to a different provider (assuming they also offer the same software). Wordpress does come with a bit more responsibility, but is far more robust and in so many way, more user friendly than anything you have listed.

    This might actually be the topic to my next video :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FernGullyGraphics View Post
    That actually couldn't be farther from the truth. There are various scenarios where a customer can come to us for a customized website solution (however we do not recommend wordpress for the sake of getting more design customers). That is essentially apples to oranges as a customer can easily develop a website using wordpress as they would Rvsitebuilder (probably much easier actually).

    To be frank, the reason why we dont push the types of builders you listed is because they are for lack of a better word, useless. Customers are going to spend the same amount of time trying to customize, get a site up and running in Rvsitebuilder (just as an example since that is the builder we currently have included in our web hosting packages), as they would a wordpress site.

    So the big difference comes with A.) being able to move your website from one provider to the next if necessary and B.) Having something that is robust so should you ever decide to redesign your website/upgrade or do something with your website other than keeping it on a cookie cutter site builder, your time invested in what you already implemented will not be completely lost.

    Honestly, I dont even know what the question you posed is even a question anymore. Personally, as a developer I wouldnt feel like I was doing a customer any favors by recommending any of those site builders you mentioned (which are a slight step above Wixx) in a sense that you might be able to migrate to a different provider (assuming they also offer the same software).

    This might actually be the topic to my next video :-)
    I can agree with this!

    I suspect that the sort of customers using site builders would have issues understanding why their websites breaks when they move to a new host that doesn't have that particular site builder.

    In theory, by providing a premium site builder, you are locking the customer into that platform.
    Sure, you could say the same about Wordpress, but at least they aren't having to pay for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FernGullyGraphics View Post
    That actually couldn't be farther from the truth. There are various scenarios where a customer can come to us for a customized website solution (however we do not recommend wordpress for the sake of getting more design customers). That is essentially apples to oranges as a customer can easily develop a website using wordpress as they would Rvsitebuilder (probably much easier actually).

    To be frank, the reason why we dont push the types of builders you listed is because they are for lack of a better word, useless. Customers are going to spend the same amount of time trying to customize, get a site up and running in Rvsitebuilder (just as an example since that is the builder we currently have included in our web hosting packages), as they would a wordpress site.

    So the big difference comes with A.) being able to move your website from one provider to the next if necessary and B.) Having something that is robust so should you ever decide to redesign your website/upgrade or do something with your website other than keeping it on a cookie cutter site builder, your time invested in what you already implemented will not be completely lost.

    Honestly, I dont even know why the question you posed is even a question anymore. Personally, as a developer I wouldnt feel like I was doing a customer any favors by recommending any of those site builders you mentioned (which are a slight step above Wixx) in a sense that you might be able to migrate to a different provider (assuming they also offer the same software). Wordpress does come with a bit more responsibility, but is far more robust and in so many way, more user friendly than anything you have listed.

    This might actually be the topic to my next video :-)
    Have to agree with you on this one I voted for wordpress as well.

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    Good feedback guys, but even if used site builder and was happy with the design you made... Surely you could just copy the source code and then not locked into paticular site builder.

    We need cPanel to release their own site builder.
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    I haven't came across a site builder I've really liked, so always tend to recommend customers use WordPress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HostXNow_Chris View Post
    Good feedback guys, but even if used site builder and was happy with the design you made... Surely you could just copy the source code and then not locked into paticular site builder.
    I guess you could copy the source, but if you have things like PHP contact forms then it could get messy.
    Again, the types of customers that use these solutions either don't want to play with code, or don't understand the inner workings.

    Quote Originally Posted by HostXNow_Chris View Post
    We need cPanel to release their own site builder.
    I guess it would be good in some ways if cPanel did, but I don't think that is what they are trying to achieve as a company.

    One of the reasons I like cPanel is because it doesn't force me to use a particular product underneath my website. I can use as little or as many of the features as I like, and still run my website. (Example: I manually edit the htaccess files instead of using cpanel to do it, but if I wanted to I could go back to doing it inside cpanel and it would most likely work fine).

    I think if they introduced a site builder, we'd see some of the features in cPanel only work (or be officially supported) when using the cPanel site builder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HostXNow_Chris View Post
    Think you may be being a little biased as you offer web development/design services i.e you'd probably prefer your clients to use your services instead of allowing them to use free tools included with plans such as RVSiteBuilder, Trendy Tools etc which are far easier for users who are new to hosting & domains and don't know how to use WordPress. You can't edit html/css etc as easily in WordPress as you can with website builders such as Trendy Tools (point & click).

    If you were not offering such services I'm sure you'd offer proper website builder than just offering WordPress which is already included with Softaculous!
    A majority of the site builders out there are complete rubbish and none of them really create anything decent enough.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't all of the TrendyTools sites Flash based?
    I would NEVER recommend any client ever builds a 100% flash based site, or a site that requires Flash at all.

    In the age of 2014, Flash shouldn't be used in this way.

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